Last game you bought?

Well I bought a copy of Furnace. I enjoy engine builders and don’t have any auction games.

Also the cover art is nice with a Henry Cavill look alike.

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Furnace is a cool game.

(Hot game)

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Curious what people here think about Unmatched. I have an opportunity to buy a discounted lot and don’t know what to think.

  • I know it is one of @COMaestro 's favorites but can’t remember any other session reports.
  • I have not had a chance to listen to the susd “how it’s aged” podcast
  • I do tend to like the good core mechanics with a library of asymmetric factions thing a la Exceed, Neuroshima Hex, Battlecon… but then I didn’t care for Tasha Kalar or Summoner Wars. So who knows.
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I own both the Volume One and Cobble and Fog. I was still not aware at the time that two player dueling games do not work for us. My partner said he wanted to try a skirmish game and Unmatched seemed like a no-brainer. We played 3 times: twice the base box which my partner won once… when Cobble and Fog arrived we played once and I was the Invisible Man and he had no chance at all and he was so frustrated he never wanted to play again. I used to play MtG in the late 90s. We both blame that.

I have considered selling one or both boxes. I really like these small pre-built deck card games but I am not too keen on the tactical positioning element so I am a bit miffed that it took us getting a second box to find out it wasn’t for us.

If he wanted to play, I absolutely would. But I am not willing to convince him to play something he is sure he will just lose again.

I am reasonably sure I posted about our matches on Recent Games.

PS: I found the characters in Cobble and Fog much more interesting than Vol One. Even though I didn’t get to explore them much.

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Have him play Medusa. He should have a big advantage i to anyone but Sherlock, but even Sherlock requires familiarity with the opposing deck to work well.

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Here, I already tried that.

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Not sure the podcast is all that informative, as it sounded like they just marched up to each other and attacked back and forth until someone died. To be fair, they described three games, and that was only how one was played, but that is definitely a poor example of how to play.

As @yashima mentioned, there is a tactical positioning element in the game, which may not be for everybody. Each fighter has a different special ability and deck of cards, meaning some fighters can have a big advantage over others, but be disadvantaged against others. That can also turn people off. But this can also mean an experienced player can choose a fighter that is weaker when playing with someone new to the game.

They were definitely wrong in the podcast about people having mains, or there being a competitive scene. There most definitely is room for such a thing, and it is quite active. But all that shows is that games will click with some people and not others.

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I picked up 303 Squadron this weekend and am about to dive into what is expected to be a struggle with the rules. This is the only thing in my collection that even remotely resembles a wargame but something about the scope and presentation managed to stand out to me. I think I just really wanted to push planes around a big map, and the fact that it’s a cooperative game made me especially curious about solo play.

Anyway the ruleset seems pretty simple, but most people have reported the classic double-whammy of a poorly vetted rulebook with a bad translation. So far I’ve found it quite easy to get through, but we’ll see how stymied I get once it’s time for takeoff.

It’s a gargantuan map (~120x80cm if I had to guess) with only a strip reserved for a turn counter, so the fact that the components are kept to an absolute bare minimum is greatly appreciated here. I’ll make sure to take a snap once I’m set up to play.

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I don’t know if you have Tabletop Simulator, or your hours of availability, but if you would like I would happily run you through a game or two sometime.

There is also a digital version in the works, which from my understanding will be released on Steam first, and Android/iOS and Switch later. Only issue will be none of the licensed fighters will be in it, due to licensing. Just public domain. I do not know the release date for that, though.

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Interesting. Does this imply that they are really more interested in theme than balance? Or is this more of a newby thkng where certain characters are close to full power on the first play while others take time and nuance?

Long post regarding **Unmatched**

The designers definitely lean heavily on theme, imo. And while they strive for balance, you cannot help but get some imbalance when you are looking at (currently) 32 fighters, all with different abilities and decks that try to fit their themes.

For instance, currently Luke Cage is really strong into Robin Hood and Bruce Lee. Because his special ability reduces all combat damage to him by 2. Lots of Bruce’s attacks are for 2, he just gets to chain them together. Robin has a lot of 2 and 3 value attacks, meaning even if Luke does not defend at all, he is still barely taking any damage. Meanwhile, he can hit like a truck.

Can these matches be won against Luke? Sure, it is possible, it is just heavily weighted in Luke’s favor. Also, there’s Medusa who has a Gaze of Stone attack. It is only a 2 value, but if she wins the combat, the defender takes an additional 8 damage. Most fighters cannot risk not defending against Medusa, on the chance she is using Gaze, but Luke just don’t care!

And even fighters that are pretty weak can actually be really good in a 2v2 game (Buffy set, often maligned for having the weakest fighters, was actually designed for 2v2).

Sherlock is considered to be the best fighter, to the point of being broken, but he is incredibly thematic: guessing values of cards in the opponent’s hand to make them discard, looking at the opponent’s hand and discarding a card, even a Master of Disguise card. However that last one is just funny, as he swaps positions with an opposing hero and does 1 damage to them. Now imagine he is fighting the upcoming T-Rex, and you can’t help but agree with Quinn’s statement in the podcast that the game is just stupid (though I know he meant it more as “silly”). I also can’t wait to use Dracula’s Ravening Seduction card on a T-Rex to move it 2 spaces. Maybe “Tantalizing” would be a better title for the card in that case. :smiley:

Overall, the designers were looking to make a light, card based dueling game, and really did not plan for a competitive scene to develop around it. As such, they are focused more on what is fun and thematic over perfect balance, though with the scene that has developed, I believe they are trying harding going forward to make sure they do not go any stronger than Sherlock, and even to make fighters that are strong into the top tier fighters, but vulnerable to some of the lower tiers. Ultimately, as long as they keep making fun fighters, I’ll keep with it.

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Stellar Conflict. Which was a name I didn’t recognise, but I looked it up because it was on sale for cheap, and it turned out to be a reimplementation/variant of Light Speed which is a game I do know about (and own, in its colour version). It’s a neat wee design which is not like the other games that I’m familiar with, so into my cart it went.

Paging @Benkyo in case that information is of interest, given How many on the Top 100 BGG...? - #51 by Benkyo (but also noting that the two games are not identical).

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Any particular reason to prefer it? It would take a lot for me to switch away from the nice circular cards I had printed for Light Speed.

Ah, circular is very nice. I recall seeing pictures of those. Stellar Conflict has big square cards.

Comparison with Light Speed? | Stellar Conflict and Stellar Conflict - Taking Light Speed to Warp Speed (Game Review) | Stellar Conflict have some comparison notes, and it sounds like Tom Vasel’s video review does as well: Stellar Conflict | Board Game | BoardGameGeek

I’ll be honest – I’m not sure if I’m actually going to like this better than Light Speed. I’m simply not sure this style of game needed any added complexity, or will actually benefit from it. But I say that without having tried it, and I felt it was still worth a punt regardless. Hopefully, when I get to play, I’ll find myself in agreement with the reviewers who say it’s an improvement.

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FWIW my initial impression is that, for better or worse, this new version leans more heavily into the “unpredictable chaos” side of things with its added variations, whereas I think that Light Speed, with its common/consistent components between players, gives you slightly more of a chance to understand and control things (even if it’s regularly chaos in practice).

In Stellar Conflict, the other players not only won’t be playing from the same standard set of ship types as yourself each game (as each player now has a distinct race with its own ships and special abilities), but they probably won’t even be playing the same specific set as they did the previous round with that same race (because you now choose from a larger pool of ships within your race). The ship variations in numbers, types, and directions of lasers shouldn’t matter too much – you’d be reading that from the cards in any case – but with the special race ability and with a few ship cards also having their own individual special abilities, the chances of you understanding the state of the game during the card play phase seems like it would be significantly reduced.

Not that you ever had much time to figure things out – and my best-laid plans would commonly go wildly awry in Light Speed – but I at least had the illusion that I could keep track of what was going down and make informed responses. The new rules make me think it’s even more of a “hope for the best and see what transpires” experience, though.

Depending on the players this extra uncertainty might add to the fun, but I wonder if for some people it might make the game feel a bit random or unfair in ways that Light Speed did not do. Light Speed is a game I’ve always thought that you can teach in a couple of minutes and then start throwing cards down and having fun – and you might get annihilated, but you see exactly why that happened as the resolution plays out, and moreover you know that you could have done the exact same thing to your opponent. With all the asymmetric changes in the new version that’s no longer necessarily the case; and you might feel that you executed everything pretty well but were undone by the unpredictable nature of your opponent’s deck (or the admittedly-more-predictable nature of their race).

I don’t want to overstate the concerns, though – it’s surely still going to be an ultra-fast and silly game of playing your cards in a panic, laughing at all the unexpected outcomes as you figure out who won, and then doing it all again a few minutes later; so it’s not like a bad outcome is going to spoil anyone’s evening! As such, I’m hoping the changes ultimately just enhance the replayability.

I do wish the amount of damage a ship can take wasn’t now printed as just a number on the card, though. Light Speed had big red circles for hit points which were instantly comprehensible from any angle, and I reckon they should have stuck with that approach.

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It has arrived! :smiley:

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Is it just a reskin or did the rules change too?

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It is not just a reskin. ThinkerThemer did a decent summary:

There’s also a quick summary of the changes in the rulebook:

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So glad I shifted my oldschool copy before they announced the reprint. Didn’t get on with it at all and made a small profit on it as opposed to it being worth nothing.

I found it needed a decent number of players up for some sillyness, but was a bit fiddly and someone always didn’t listen properly to the rules. Hopefully you have better luck :grin:. Let us know how much fun it is so I can regret my choices :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:.

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