Blood on the clocktower PBF

[pillbox]

I forgot about for you and your whisper maps and nearly gave the game away with my first action.

I covered my tracks as best I could by whispering to both my neighbors simultaneously (a feat not quite possible in a real-life game session). Fortunately, yashima replied to me and gave me a free role to claim by the time Whistle_Pig responded, so I could feign that I was building trust by exchanging role information with my two neighbors

Also, it could have played out much differently. When Ross nominated himself, I had planned on voting Yes, but felt it was more import to have at least one vote where yashima and I voted differently.

[Chewy77]

@pillbox

When Ross nominated himself, I had planned on voting Yes, but felt it was more import to have at least one vote where yashima and I voted differently.

I think that was one of the reasons why I did not suspect @yashima, so well done. Obviously, this is from a bystander perspective.

[Benkyo]

FWIW, I had yashima pegged fairly early, and I’m amazed she dodged significant suspicion all the way to the end!

(I should note that I also mostly failed to follow all the theory and don’t understand all of the roles, so even if I had been in the game, constructing a convincing argument for why yashima had to die might have been beyond me. But I could tell!)

[GeeBizzle]

If there is much appetite for it we could run another game. Interested on people’s thoughts.

[Captbnut]

It was very odd being wrongly accused. The theories @COMaestro and @RossM were writing were (to me) such clearly nonsense that it was hard to separate them from being nefarious.

On Day 1 I genuinely thought I was doing the right thing not revealing the second player I’d scanned. Tbf unless someone outside the game had told me that was wrong I wouldn’t have believed them.

Day 2 was just a desperate attempt to change some minds.

@COMaestro dying instead of me on the second night was an absolute godsend for @yashima because I looked so guilty. I think I would have voted for me!

I think I prefer short form social deduction tbh.

[SteveB_uk]

The game was huge fun to spectate

It’s definitely very different by forum, not least because of the permanent record of who whispered to who. While everyone can see it around a table, they’ve often forgotten day 1 as the game progresses.

It also reads as much more confrontational when typed out instead of laughing and pointing at friends in a pub - accusations of evil intent seem a lot more personal in writing!

I was convinced there was a spy, and the virgin nomination was some cunning plan So as a spectator, I got it completely wrong. Would definitely enjoy future games on here, yeah.

[GeeBizzle]

From a storyteller perspective I felt a bit helpless with so much of the Ross vs capt dynamic in discussion that when capt died and the game continued it became a foregone conclusion that Ross would be in a bad position.

I’ll add that If we do go again I’m happy to yield the storyteller role if someone else wanted to try that side of the game.

[DJCT]

From my perspective I felt I really had very little info to go on; the more anyone said the more likely I felt they were to be guilty, and my suspicion about @yashima was just not something I could back up, especially as I was dead relatively early and so only had one vote - which made that an even more weighty decision.

On playing again, I think I would give it one more try to see if the game state felt a little more comprehensible or I felt more active in the game - in essence I felt pretty passive throughout (due solely to my own inadequacy).

[gmwhite999]

While it has been intriguing to follow this game online and learn how it works, it has only confirmed to me that it’s not the sort of game I’d wish to play in person or on a forum. Personal taste, of course, and I’m sure many of you enjoy it and will continue to do so.

[yashima]

@pillbox

I’ve been anxious for three weeks straight

Same. I was mostly concerned of giving away my identity early, spoiling the game for everyone.
I was paranoid the entire time when I wrote to the @GeeBizzle about something or even with any whisper that I might accidentally post something publicly or to the wrong person.

My partner luckily indulged my theorizing and evil cackle’s. He may even have encouraged me and I may have made like Rumpelstilzchen at some point. I really needed an outlet. The tension of a game like this spread over three weeks… I can barely get in 2 games of The Resistance in a row. If I had known I was going to be the Imp on my first game…

@pillbox

but felt it was more import to have at least one vote where yashima and I voted differently.

Absolutely, I cheered when I saw that post

Btw one more kernel of truth in the game: @Captbnut remember how I told you us newbies should stick together? I was really concerned that the both of us (I didn’t know at that point that @DJCT had also never played before) should survive the first day–which is the entire reason I did not back executing the Fortune Teller on the first day. Which in retrospect was not a bad move.

@Benkyo

I’m amazed she dodged significant suspicion all the way to the end! […] constructing a convincing argument for why yashima had to die might have been beyond me

I cannot believe I wasn’t even nominated until the next to last day. I do believe the secrecy favors evil. All the whispers that were going around were probably helping Team Evil more than Team Good. Several people tried to create those arguments and I am not sure why they were never heard.

@RossM the whispermap is equally helpful and unhelpful. I noticed early on that it is prone to either overlook something (at some point at least one arrow between me and someone else was missing and I believe it still is) or to simplify to a point where a pattern doesn’t have the weight it should. Also, read it wrong and it reinforces a flawed view of the game state (1). Obviously I discounted it’s viability because I was afraid you would latch on those early game whispers… but I still think it hindered Team Good more than it helped. And even knowing pillbox and I were Team Evil, it probably didn’t help determining which of us was the demon.

(1) this also happens to people who try to solve Cryptid “Bingo Style”.

@Captbnut

It was very odd being wrongly accused.

I can imagine that. I felt quite bad for you. But I wasn’t going to let it go…

I felt quite odd most of the time. I was getting away with things I never thought possible. It was way more of a reality check than I could ever have anticipated.

@GeeBizzle

it became a foregone conclusion that Ross would be in a bad position.

Were you rooting for the good guys then? The dynamic with the Monk and the Fortune Teller was a godsend for me.

I am not going to pull back the curtain on all my game decisions, after all I may play some of you again at some point in this or another game

In reality, I do not have the pokerface to carry the role this far. I am glad that I pre-ordered a copy of the game. I am reasonably sure I’ll find some interest in my local circles.

For now, while it was lovely and I am willing to play again at some point, I have to retire for a game or two. Firstly, nobody would believe a word I say and secondly, I need a break from being evil and there is no guarantee I wouldn’t be on Team Evil again.

[RogerBW]

I ran the first game on the SU&SD forum. Then I ran the second game, and in the first shuffle of roles the player who’d been the Imp the first time got it again. I changed it, because I thought it would be less fun (and I think that’s the moderator’s role in this game).

I like running this much more than I like playing it, but I am basically a GM at heart.

[COMaestro]

Correction, I died the first DAY, by nominating the Virgin. I still so not see a reason why it would be bad to share both of the people you scanned as FT if you detected nothing Impish about either of them, and it would be even more important if you had. Of course, Good still would not believe you because you could be an Evil player spreading disinformation, which is what makes this game so crazy.

It is easy to try to treat this as a logic puzzle, probably moreso in a PBF format. If somebody does something that you think is illogical, it creates a feeling of distrust. But people can be illogical without being nefarious, or be acting on different information or even a gut feeling. In my case, it was worse because my ability pinged one of neighbors as evil. Add in actions which I felt were suspicious, and it was inevitable I would think you were Evil.

@SteveB_uk

I was convinced there was a spy, and the virgin nomination was some cunning plan

As I argued, this would have been a terrible play had I been the Spy. First of all, there is no guarantee that the Storyteller would have me read as a Villager and die. This would instantly throw suspicion on me, though I could then try to argue I was the Drunk, but the suspicion would not be worth it, barring the scenario that the Imp was up for execution. But in this instance, half the reason @Captbnut was on the chopping block was because of my Empath claim plus I had voted for his execution. Things that I would not have done as a Spy.

Really, our first clue that we did not have a Spy should have been the execution of the Mayor. There are much better roles to get rid of, like Slayer or Monk, that taking out the Mayor would be a low priority in comparison. “But that’s just what they want you to think!”

Which is why I think @RossM sums it up so well with his, “I hate this game.”

Would love to play again, if we have enough people interested.

[RossM]

Likewise I’d be happy with another game.

Also

Drawing a whisper map when you are evil is a total pain!

[Whistle_Pig]

Definitely not a game I’d want to play in real life! Interesting for a PBF though.

[RossM]

For a quicker game we could do bad moon rising.

[Assussanni]

I’d definitely be interested in playing if there is another game. I’m also happy to run it if everyone else wants to play.

[GeeBizzle]

I’ll start another recruitment thread.