Is that the one by the Wavelength people?
That is correct
What is the KS everyone here most regrets not backing?
Mine is definitely Calico. I blame Radho for being overly enthusiastic in his preview.
It was pax Pamir. But I caught it in round 2 this year. I think Iāve filled in most of the holes I regretted through retail / eBay.
V-Commandos. Never even heard about it until some time later. I have most of the promos, and of course I can proxy the rest, butā¦
Awkward Guests. Not sure if Iād actually keep it now, but I really like the idea and again the first I heard of it was when someone had a copy.
Only The Estate was the one I really regret. This one is fantastic.
Cthulhu Wars isnt really a regret. Theres no way I would back such a thing! The shipping is too much
Yokohama Duel. I was still pretty new to Kickstarter at the time this campaign was live and I didnāt even think to look into whether I might be able to snag a deluxe copy of Yokohama. And yep, sure could have. That one stings.
Marvel United - the game looks poop. The minis were at a low price point and would have been fun to paint.
Obsession. And Pax Pamir 2nd.
I think all my biggest regrets Iāve made up for afterwards:
- Rallyman GT (bought someoneās KS pledge on the secondary market)
- Obsession (publisher briefly had everything available via Amazon in the US before the listed got pulled due to an honest mistake of some sort)
- Xia: Legends of a Drift System (bought a full collection on the secondary market, including the KS extras?)
- Aeonās End (bought a collection on the secondary market that includes 3.5 waves of content with the KS extras)
- Snowdonia Deluxe Master Set (bought via Game Stewards)
- Isle of Cats (got for my birthday, bought the expansion and KS extras retail)
I guess maybe thereās just not much that is KS exclusive that I care about that canāt be tracked down later? Thatās a good thing! I guess the down side is that I ended up paying more than backers for a lot of it.
The Edge: Dawnfall 1.6 - I now have it, but I thought of the $400 all-in as just ludicrously much at the time and didnāt consider that I could probably have survived with the $200 base pledge and maybe one or two addons at most, and since I decided I wanted to own it anyway but Iād missed both the project and late pledges, I had to get it aftermarket for $400 for just the base pledge. Itās not coming to retail, or so they say.
Other than that, not much. There are a few things I initially passed on and then found I was interested in later, but not infrequently that was a budget choice and itās not really been a problem getting it later. I canāt currently think of anything else where I went āwait, that sounds really coolā months or years later and then justā¦couldnāt get it, or didnāt get KS extras, or paid way more like The Edge. Iām sure Iāve missed cool stuff along the way but likeā¦oh well. And thereās been a few things where I missed early Kickstarters (e.g. Hexplore It: The Valley of the Dead King) but the later projects ended up providing higher quality revamped versions so itās just as well.
Heās overly enthusiastic about everything. I know a negative preview would never be published, but Iād like to see a negative review out of the guy once in while. Maybe he has a few truly negative reviews (as opposed to very positive reviews with a few quibbles), but I had to stop watching his reviews because I stopped getting value of his positive reviews due to the lack of negative reviews.
I Never listen to radho - heās got the perfect taste for an audience seeking choice validation. It I grew suspicious of him being positive about everything (and nearly every review ending that the game was going straight into his games of the year)
I think thereās a perfect player count for calico (4) but itās a really unoptimised game otherwise.
I feel like if a game is going to be that simple it really needs to be perfect but that game feels like the kind of game where if you can play infinite games your best strategy will work out on the balance of probability but its too long a game to have those numbers play out. LAMA also is similarly lucky but because you can play 10 rounds in half an hour, the player who makes the best choices will win out. Iām baffled by how few people have criticised the game because it has cats in it.
The Kickstarter I regetted most are chronicles of crime and ungreatful guests. I thought my partner liked deduction games (she likes logic problems) but then in the year in between I learnt she doesnāt like co-op deduction!!
Also: any super fancy KS edition is a double edged sword. Itās a game Iāll like for its components but the universal truth holds that Iāll probably play it 3 times max (regardless of components) and Iāll usually play a game with more components and set up time even less times so itās a doubly waste of money even though thereās marginally extra enjoyment and then I find them harder to dispose of.
I hate to be āthat guyā, but⦠nothing.
I canāt think of a single game that I didnāt back that I then regretted for more than a few minutes. All the good ones became available through retail (occasionally cheaper, often faster). Thereās a long list of games I regret backing (WarMachine Tactics, Iām looking straight at you), but nothing that I missed and then was upset or sad about.
But Iām weird. And I work at a game store, so.
I know (I mean who doesnāt that?) and I donāt mind. I think his runthroughs do a great job at presenting games quickly. Iāve seen a few where he obviously didnāt like the game (I think the one about the moon landing really wasnāt his thing). I was being a bit flippant above because I thought about backing Calico after the runthrough but then wasnāt sure if it had the depth I hoped for and the KS was at a point where I had just realized that Radho is difficult to read because of his enthusiastic schtick.
That just shows that you probably know what games you like and also you work at a game store
I do think that almost everything worth it eventually makes it to retail these daysāover here it just takes a little longer and sometimes KS means I get a chance to get a game much earlier than I would otherwise. Also this year I backed a few very very obscure things that will very likely remain that way (Izayoi and Hoop Godz come to mind). But the whole hobby is shot through with FOMO not only because of Kickstarters. This was already the case 15-20 years ago when I hunted for Robo Ralleye, Die Macher and Talisman editions at SPIEL. Back then it was cult of the old out of print things that existed before I had even entered the hobby.
I also have Kickstarters I regret backing because it turned out I just didnāt like the games (Villagers, Table of Elements, Lovelace and Babbage).
And then there is Dwellings of Eldervale which is not a bad game per se but I regret spending so much money and space on a game that would be so much better if they had fit the same gameplay in a smaller box with lower expectations. Itās up on the hype meter right now and I donāt get it. I backed it with āeverythingā and I wish I had not.
I got distracted by the Rahdo tangent, but I can get over the FOMO pretty quickly. I have too many games I havenāt played yet (or want desperately to play again) to regret not kickstarting something.
Back when the Deluxe version of Orleans was kickstarted by TMG, I regretted not backing it. I didnāt back it, because my friend and main game host in our group was and I figured I didnāt need to spend the money to have two copies in the group. Fast forward to after the Kickstarter was fulfilled, I asked him about it and he said, āOh, I sold it.ā āDidnāt you play it?ā āNo.ā I then regretted not backing the Kickstarter, but I was mostly just irritated at him.
There are only a couple that I can think of really.
The main one is Cthulhu Death May Die. I was fairly new to the hobby and especially KS, and didnāt see anything special, and while l still enjoy the Cthulhu theme, that pulp era doesnāt do much for me. Well, the game comes out and itās a hit for a lot of people I wouldnāt have expected (including Matt Jude?!).
I donāt feel too bad as I grabbed all of the retail content at release for maybeā¦40% off? One of my go-to OGS had it on sale when it hit (no idea why, given they had the KS edition for significantly more, but whatever), so Iām not hurting for content. Most of it I do t even care about; I have 20 heroes so another 18 seems meaningless, but the extra Old One (Dagon), 3 scenarios (which are apparently the wackiest in the game) and dashboard for hero sheets would all have been nice. Iād feel worse if my āall-in retailā hadnāt cost me less than a base pledge!
Marvel United is one Iām somewhat torn in. The game has been getting decent reviews for what it is, and most seem to think it has the room to grow the way E. Lang said it would with the expansions. Also, the minis looks amazingly adorable!!! That said, given the theme I would have been all in or nothing and Iām not sure I need that, lol.
I somewhat regret passing on Dwellings of Eldervale, but it didnāt jump out at me and is getting rave reviews. That said, I pre-ordered a base copy for slightly less than the KS, soā¦Iām good (once it arrives in a month or two, lol).
No others I can think of. There have been a handful I backed at $1 but never upped to a full pledge despite being drawn to the game, and Iām mostly happy about that; Reichbusters being the biggest example, as I was on the fence until the last hour the PM was open, lol.
Most of the time, if I want the game and can swing it, Iāll back it. Iāve rarely regretted passing.
I thought of another one!!
Hellboy the Board Game. I was so on the fence for this but thought āNo way will this be goodāā¦well guess what? It is. Basically rave reviews across-the-board. Itās streamlined in the same way as Cthulhu DMD, which makes it easier to table.
I also regret passing on a KS edition when a OGS I use had it for a decent price. I still occasionally pop into the BGG market and see what is available for the KS edition. The funny thing is, given the retail prices, itās probably still cheaper for me to buy a copy second hand of the KS edition (which also has the big box).
Iām not sure if Iāll ever break down and buy a copy, but Iāll definitely watch whatever Mantic Games, or more accurately James Hewitt (Needy Cat Games) do next. Mantic teased that they are doing a board game for Umbrella Academy (nothing to do with the recent card game that was on KS), and if Hewitt/Needy Cat is involved, Iām likely in!
@Derelicte This is a few posts back now but I had failed to hear that Dire Alliance: Horror was a Benjamin/Thompson design. Everyone always called it the new Sadler bros. game so I didnāt take so much as a look. Had I known they were behind the gameplay Iād have definitely taken a dip in. Looks like thereās an open PMā¦
Yep, same prices, too. Which are refreshingly low, if you donāt get the minis.