Blood on the clocktower PBF

I feel like this is a clever bluff by an evil player to guarantee no matter what happens later today, RossM cannot be nominated again

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I mean itā€™s not that clever. I am, after all, definitely nominated.

:ghost: @RossM why did you get @COMaestro to tell me your role, instead of doing it directly? :ghost:

I vote yes.

I think this is a bluff and I am calling it.

Ps I would have said so last night but we had an online whisky tasting in which I semi participated and I didnā€™t want to vote under the influence.

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Great question.

  1. I trusted @COMaestro, especially after their death. I didnā€™t want to have people declaring me of whispering to lots of people and scheming. As @Captbnut agreed, neither of us can think of a way @COMaestro can be evil. So Iā€™m happy to declare Iā€™ve only whispered to one player, and they are good.

  2. An additional test. I asked @COMaestro to whisper to you, because when I publicly declared my role I wanted to make sure @COMaestro had passed on the message as intended and had not ā€˜alteredā€™ it to help team evil.

The more you argue how your whisper pattern exonerates you, the more suspicious I become.
There are three people at this table who had no idea what a whispermap was until this game started. And then the first actions in the game were a lot of whispering. What were we supposed to think?

For all I know the minion is (or was?) the Poisoner or the Scarlet Woman. How much would they even need to communicate with the Imp?

(Note: I am still undecided whether it is @Captbnut or @RossM who is Team Evil, this is not a ringing endorsement of @Captbnut. Just saying.)

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Actually, it might be worth avoiding this doubt in the future. If whenever we whisper to anyone, we also include @Najim we can guarantee no evil scheming can occur. The rule of three!

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Oh. Iā€™m not saying that whispering is bad, Iā€™m only pointing out the only person Iā€™ve whispered with is good.

My first whisper, the first of the game, was to tell @COMaestro what my role was. If I was the poisoner or the scarlet woman that would be a huge risk as I would have no idea what the other roles were.

So you are saying you are the Spy? :wink:

No,

Iā€™m the monk. But what Iā€™m trying to convey is all possible combinations,
and answer specific questions.

Besides, If I was the spy I would definitely have whispered to my teammate at least once, to tell them everyoneā€™s roles.

Edit -

If I was the spy, then you @comaestro couldnā€™t be the spy as well, which means that you would definitely be good because you were killed by accusing @Najim Which means that if I was the spy then Iā€™ve only whispered to a good player.

Tldr. Neither @COMaestro or myself are the spy

Votes so far:

player Alive Nom Def Latest_vote
@pillbox Yes No No Not yet
@yashima Yes No No Yes
@COMaestro No N/A N/A 1
@Captbnut Yes No No Not yet
@RossM Yes Yes Yes Not yet
@Najim Yes No No Not yet
@DJCT No N/A N/A 1
@Whistle_Pig No N/A N/A 1

Could I ask that if any ghosts have any possible intention to vote they PM me so that I ensure they have the opportunity (I wonā€™t hold this as a commitment).

I am so confused.

My thinking goes: I would rather be played by a trickster and lose than kill a fellow townsfolk by trying to win.

I vote no

I canā€™t shake the feeling that this is a double bluff.

But thereā€™s just not enough to go on. I vote No and desperately hope Iā€™m not making a huge mistake.

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:ghost:I only get one vote for the rest of the game, right? It looks as though, after @Captbnut chickening out, then it wouldnā€™t be decisive ā€¦ so I guess I wonā€™t!

Itā€™s either @RossM or @yashima for reasons set out above ā€¦

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:ghost: I will not be voting on this nomination. :ghost:

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Voting update:

player Alive Nom Def Latest_vote
@pillbox Yes No No No
@yashima Yes No No Yes
@COMaestro No N/A N/A 1
@Captbnut Yes No No No
@RossM Yes Yes Yes Not yet
@Najim Yes No No Not yet
@DJCT No N/A N/A 1
@Whistle_Pig No N/A N/A 1

We require 3 votes for the execution to carry.

We still need a vote from @RossM and @Najim.

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I vote yes

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Slightly shocked @Najim, I wonā€™t lie.

Forgot to say I vote No

:ghost: Poisoner does want to communicate with the Imp, because it sucks to pick out a target to poison, only to have them be the Impā€™s victim in the night. This can easily be one way communication though, and from either side.

I feel like the townsfolk have a real lack of informational roles this round. My ability only reads my living neighbors, which can take a while to change (though I am dead, so itā€™s moot), a claimed Ravenskeeper, who only gets info if they are killed in the night, and a claimed Fortune Teller, who is probably our best chance of getting info, but started off really shifty so is hard to trust.

I will say that @RossM communicated with me pretty early that he was the Monk. In fact, he was the first person to whisper to anyone. Such confidence in claiming a role suggests Monk, Imp, or Spy.

Really, at this point I am suspicious of anyone who has claimed a role that discourages killing by the Imp. This would be Soldier and Ravenskeeper. But I also know that evil is probably going to win if we do not execute the Imp or Minion this turn. :ghost:

But the fact Iā€™ve only communicated with you means it highly unlikely Iā€™m a spy as well.