You’re not helping me to resist temptation here 
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If you don’t like it I will trade if for some magic beans.
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That’s ridiculous. There’s no such thing as magic beans.
@whistle_pig, if you don’t like it, I’ll trade you some REAL beans for it!
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I can trade you Cards Against Humanity if you dont want it.
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When I used to play poker with a semi regular group I played with someone that would stay in out of curiosity. It became a nightmare to play with them.
Similarly my partner can tell when I lie or am giving a bad offer. Sometimes the people you are playing these soft interaction games with make/break the game.
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As an aside I’ll offer you my humanity for it.
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Something to lean your cards against? 
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There is a game on KS called „I would kill Hitler“ about answering hypothetical questions and maybe I am overreacting but I hate how people make light of one of the most terrible people in recent history by using the name in boardgame titles for shock value. I have never played Secret Hitler. In my opinion there should be other title options conveying a game’s content/idea …
We see it more and more often that the name is invoked for laughs in films, comics and games. Is Hitler becoming just another pop culture reference? If so, I find that deeply disappointing—to phrase it carefully.
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For edgy men in t-shirts, yes.
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That was one of the reasons I got rid of my copy of SH.
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What annoyed me was that Secret Hitler didn’t even have anything to do with Hitler. It was just another werewolf. I’d hoped they’d finally made the bad guys have the numerical advantage, which would make more sense thematically, and be more unique (even if mechanically identical). But no, it’s just shock value 
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I saw a lot of stuff about how it models the rise of bad people by good people going along with it, but I’m glad I’d decided to sell before it came out how horrible Max Temkin is. (I sold because I think the game can be reduced to luck: if the H player plays as a perfect liberal, there’s no way of keeping him out of the chancellorship.)
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Everything is a pop culture reference. Hitler is an interesting case study. I respect that different people from differing regional and cultural backgrounds may have differing opinions on this topic. On one hand, reducing Hitler to a pop culture reference robs him and his reputation of power. On the other hand, it makes it easier to downplay his evil.
See also the debate over the use of Hitler in Jojo Rabbit or The Producers with Springtime for Hitler. Do films like Downfall humanize him too much? Or does de-humanizing Hitler, such as calling him “a monster,” wash over the very human evil he was?
I didn’t like Secret Hitler simply because I find such social deduction games rather pointless (for me). No one has any basis to believe anything anyone says. It is impossible to get anyone caught in a logical puzzle (there is little true deduction) and you’re just going off verbal and physical cues.
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This seems like more of a problem to me; Hitler was entirely human, so pretending that he isn’t is just whitewashing history. People loved Hitler. He wasn’t some external threat that everyone wanted to stop. He was elected. His atrocities were what many people wanted; even in England and America, Eugenics was a very popular idea… until after it happened. Making Hitler into some extradimensional horror just excuses us from admitting that we could (and have) make the same mistakes.
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Anyway, that’s something of another topic.
This in The Kickstarter Thread™!
Fleetfleet is back again, and getting more of my money, again…
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I have not seen one of the movies you mentioned but I googled them all just now. I think every single one of them could lead to a debate and create controversy. I cannot tell for sure of course if any of them make light of history and that means maybe I should watch them to be better informed.
What I object to with this particular game is that they just picked the one question that has shock value for title. There isn’t anything really to learn or debate about the history. I looked into the bio of the creator and it said something about „the Hitler guy“. It just feels so wrong to me personally. It seems oblivious to the history and I have a hard time dealing with that.
As for social deduction, I just finished playing a game of Blood on the Clocktower here on the forums where I was the evil Imp and I had some uncomfortable flashes of reality and parallels that I had not imagined I would ever experience. This one game taught me a hopefully lasting lesson to never underestimate the RL Imps.
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It’s like how I feel about cooperative games:
Let’s play a game in which there is a problem (or multiple problems) that must be solved through cooperation and communication with each of us playing a role in dealing with the problem and other random factors that might come up. By the way, there may be a traitor (or more) in our midst.
Sounds like my day job (or part of it).
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Well, having watched two levels of V-Commandos played, there goes $155 USD. sigh
I wasn’t certain about it at first, especially the way that there’s a constant influx of enemies and any failure of stealth leads to an alert being triggered for basically the rest of the level (you can stop it once, but that seems like a temporary stopgap at best), and a whole lotta stuff automatically fails stealth. But partly that impression was based on the idea that that alert meant the death of stealth, which it actually doesn’t. Just because they know there’s a problem doesn’t mean they know where it is. And you have enough tricks in your toolbag that navigating all that looks really challenging and fun. I do feel like I’d rather it be easier to make it further into the level without raising the alert than either playthrough I watched, but I suspect that it’s probably possible to be a bit more consistent about it by careful play than, you know, those folks were. And I’ve seen enough good stuff here and elsewhere that I guess this is the time.
Not doing the minis, though. An extra $100! Oof. I miiiight do the decorative campaign tiles separate from the minis pack, though. And maybe the cloth bags - are they just nicer cloth bags, or does the game expect you to provide your own enemy/equipment bags by default?
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I’m not doing the minis either. The cost per figure isn’t bad, but the game really doesn’t need them.
You don’t get any bags as standard; the add-on ones are plain printed cloth bags (quite pleasant but nothing special), which I have from buying at Essen, while the ones only available with the minis appear to be rather better. It’s entirely workable just to use a couple of coffee mugs to shuffle things around and draw blindly.
I think I want to measure and count my tokens, and get some coin capsules for them. (Yeah yeah just another sort of sleeving… but it does give them some weight and solidity.)
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After browsing a bit, I’m not seeing anything I like better as an alternative and I don’t really have a mug collection (I’m weird, I know) so I’ll probably just get the official ones.
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