The Best Lord of the Rings Card Game(s)

2026-04-02T18:36:23Z

It’s interesting how little I’m motivated to watch this. I’ve really fallen off the SUSD bandwagon.

I think I was there for Quinns & Matt. They both got tired, Quinns moved on, Matt’s still trying. But he’s tired.

All the energy is with the young’uns but I’m just not interested in Tom’s opinions. And his videos don’t appeal to me as pure entertainment the way the older guard’s did.

Then you have the old brilliant writing of Ava and Brendan, also scrapped. I think they weren’t getting traffic on the written stuff - but also there wasn’t a direct link to it on the frontpage so what do you expect?

Ah well. Times come and times go.

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I’m trying to separate that feeling in myself from a general lack of excitement about New Games. I have a solid collection and not enough space, something need to impress me to get a look in, so my initial reaction to anything tends to be neutral to negative.

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I think I’m in the same boat. Tom is funny, but with a different sense of humor than I came to expect from Quinns, Paul, and Matt.

The new videos also tend to be over-edited in my opinion.

Yes, I realize I’m squarely in the ā€œold man yells at cloudā€ territory… but that is a distinction that I feel I have earned… by… being old. And yelling at clouds.

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I’m in a similar boat. I’m not interested in new games and SU&SD aren’t as worth it for entertainment value as they used to be.

Conversely, I’ll happily watch through an hour-long Quinns Quest video for a game I know I’m not interested in within the first few minutes.

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I kind of have to agree. There was a time a new SU&SD review would come out and I’d instantly start watching it. Now, while I did watch this one, I haven’t yet watched the Luthier one, and possibly another one before that. Oh yeah, the Top 100 of Last Will. Similarly, I haven’t listened to the past few podcasts.

There’s multiple parts to it. One is I just don’t have a lot of time, so I just don’t always get around to watching a review video, especially on some games where I know even if it’s good, I likely won’t have an interest in purchasing it (Luthier, for instance).

I find Tom has lost some of his…zaniness…in his more recent videos. His early videos were all pretty great, humorous and informative. Now, there is still some humor, but not as over the top as it used to be. Same with Matt, and maybe it’s just age and life getting in the way of the more carefree days of youth (for him and me).

I do miss Quinns. He had a…sort of gravitas, if that word works for board game reviews, that just really pulled you in. I haven’t watched many of his Quinns Quest videos, mostly because I just don’t have the time for RPG’s at all, and as mentioned above, even time to watch videos is somewhat limited. I should probably make an effort to see a few more, though, to see if they are worth it for the entertainment value. I think it’s the length that typically prevents it for me. I can do a 15 minute vid. The longer it gets from there, the less likely I am to watch it.

I also miss having a few more reviewers. I really enjoyed Emily’s stuff, just really off-the-wall stuff that was hilarious.

I do enjoy the SU&SD podcasts still, even though I’m a bit behind. Probably because they are a bit less scripted than their reviews, so it feels a bit more authentic.

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I still like Tom. I fell off earlier when I thought I was really going too nuts on board games and have to stop playing everything and buy everything.

I think I started watching less when they do more ā€œreviewsā€ and less ā€œentertainmentā€. For the lack of better words. I went back on their Inis review and that one was still their old unhinged vids

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I’ve actually been rewatching a lot of the old videos. Mostly, that’s me trying to reconnect with my game collection (and the hobby) now that my youngest daughter(s) are starting to sleep through the night and I can entertain the idea of actually playing games again.

Watching the old videos really shows the difference to the videos of modern SU&SD

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Same to all of this. I think the thing that became the clearest as time has gone on is just how strong of a games writer Quinns is, and just how much his absence has led to flatter SUSD output. I too have been way more into Quinns Quest video, despite not really liking RPGs and still being into board games, and that’s purely on the strength of Quinns’s ability to constantly churn out creative, engaging scripts.

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I think I’ll always consider the Paul & Quinns team as the glory days of SUSD. There’s an enormous amount of genuinely great stuff afterwards as well (I could pick out numerous videos of any given contributor that I’ve loved), but I’ll always miss the delightfully irreverent approach to board game reviewing that got me hooked on the show in the first place. I watched each and every one of those videos first and foremost because they were going to make me laugh a lot, and only secondly to learn something about some board games that I might be interested in (and they got me interested in a whole lot of games!).

Those early videos rarely gave me a detailed understanding of a game; but they gave me a feel for how it might feel to play them, and what the hooks were, and whether I wanted to go and find out more. And because I knew I’d enjoy the video regardless of whether I thought I was interested in the game, I’d watch everything and, in the process, learn something about games I might not otherwise have taken an interest in.

My favourite SUSD videos all have their own little world, with characters and settings and scenes and story, and so many of the jokes are hung off of those extraneous elements (which the board game review has been nestled into).

And as much as Matt’s drive to improve the production quality has resulted in consistently well-lit and well-focused images, I can’t help wondering whether it’s also the reason why they almost never film outdoors / roaming with a hand-held cam any more (as it wouldn’t surprise me if they don’t want to juxtapose their beautiful indoor shots with lower quality footage, or if the lighting equipment prevents them from roaming freely indoors). In the old days it was all much of a muchness regardless of what/where they were filming, and that freedom to take the camera anywhere had a huge impact.

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Likewise, I just prefer written content these days.

A critical factor is I can consume it at my own pace.

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Tom’s early surreal stuff was amazing. Lately he’s grown into a very assured, insightful reviewer, and they do need someone to provide those solid reviews.

My problem with the channel is that 50% of the time they’re choosing games I have no interest in. If they pick a game I want to know about then the review is never bad, so it’s the game more than the style that decides if I’ll watch it.

Definitely miss Ava and Emily. Giving vids to two more freelancers occasionally would really shake things up for the channel.

But also it’s 2026. Anyone is doing well to regularly produce anything, and life happens. If it’s only Tom and Matt then they’re doing a good job of keeping up the output.

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Watches the review Oh no

So 3 of you are playing different tricks goals and 1 of you is playing straight-up Hearts?
Oh no I love it. I don’t even like The Crew but I love this.

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It seems like each scenario would/could be different.

But that’s interesting too, yeah? If a scenario presented an interesting challenge, you could simply replay that one scenario.

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I would be wary of the problem I found with The Crew in which the difficulty of a specific task would vary hugely with the cards drawn.

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I’m interested that you draw and THEN choose a role.

So if you get a hand that can’t win anything you choose the role that needs to lose. Seems better, if you’re good enough to know what the hand you were dealt can do.

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This is my first encounter with them:
https://www.shutupandsitdown.com/review-jaipur/

Sometime in 2017 I decided my collection was stale and… boy we’ve been off to the races since then. But yeah in 2017 I was looking for new games and read this.

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Each scenario is different (played about 1-5 with a friend’s copy.

It’s good, thematic, but yes we lost a few due to draws. It’s quick enough to replay though

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There is definitely more ā€˜youtuber’-style overcutting in their videos these days, particularly the jump cuts. There’s also the infrequent but still regular use of extreme zooms/slow-mo/massive text on screen without any real reason to do so - I mostly find these obnoxious.

Edit: Just to make sure I wasn’t kidding myself, I went and picked some videos and counted the number of cuts (not including graphical overlays) in the first 60 seconds. This is because it’s Good Friday and I’m putting off the cleaning that I don’t want to do.

Luthier (2026) - 17 cuts

Frosthaven (2023) - 10 cuts

Hansa Teutonica (2021) - 9 cuts

878 Vikings (2018) - 2 cuts

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