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Framed #1562
:movie_camera: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square: :green_square: :black_large_square:
Heard of it.

Framed - One Frame Challenge #565
:movie_camera: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square:
Heard of it.

Wordle 1,827 3/6

:yellow_square::yellow_square::green_square::yellow_square::black_large_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::black_large_square::green_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:

Daily Dordle 1608 7&5/7
:white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::yellow_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::green_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::green_square:
:white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square:
:white_large_square::white_large_square::yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square:
:white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:white_large_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square: :black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square: :black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square:

:slightly_smiling_face: Daily Quordle 1608
:five::seven:
:four::six:

Daily Sequence Quordle 1608
:four::five:
:six::seven:

squareword.org 1601: 8 guesses

:yellow_square::yellow_square::green_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::yellow_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:

<6::green_square: <11::yellow_square: <16::orange_square: 16+::red_square:
#squareword #squareword1601

Connections
Puzzle #1105
:yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:
:purple_square::purple_square::purple_square::purple_square:
:blue_square::blue_square::blue_square::blue_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:

catfishing
#727 - 9/10 :tada:
:cat::cat::cat::cat::fish:
:cat::cat::cat::cat::cat:
Well, I should quit this game now, this is the best I am ever likely to do. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Connections
Puzzle #1105
:blue_square::blue_square::blue_square::blue_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:
:purple_square::purple_square::purple_square::purple_square:

:slightly_smiling_face: Daily Quordle 1608
:nine::seven:
:five::six:

Daily Sequence Quordle 1608
:four::five:
:six::seven:

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Loconundrum #98
:white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :man_walking::locomotive:
:white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :locomotive::locomotive:
:white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :locomotive::locomotive::locomotive:
:green_square::yellow_square::white_large_square: :locomotive::locomotive:
:green_square::green_square::green_square:
I didn’t think one could get that far from (start) in that time.

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Connections
Puzzle #1106
:purple_square::purple_square::purple_square::purple_square:
:blue_square::blue_square::blue_square::blue_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:

Wordle 1,828 3/6
:black_large_square::green_square::yellow_square::black_large_square::black_large_square:
:black_large_square::black_large_square::green_square::black_large_square::black_large_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:

:slightly_smiling_face: Daily Quordle 1609
:eight::four:
:seven::five:

Daily Sequence Quordle 1609
:four::five:
:six::seven:

squareword.org 1602: 8 guesses
:green_square::yellow_square::green_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:green_square::yellow_square::green_square::yellow_square::green_square:
:yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:

<6::green_square: <11::yellow_square: <16::orange_square: 16+::red_square:
#squareword #squareword1602

Framed #1563
:movie_camera: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square: :green_square: :black_large_square:
Heard of it

Framed - One Frame Challenge #566
:movie_camera: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square: :green_square: :black_large_square: :black_large_square:
Heard of it

I got a score of 2550 on today’s Chronophoto: 6/21/2026
Round 1: 849
Round 2: 0​:cross_mark:
Round 3: 924
Round 4: 777
Round 5: 0​:cross_mark:

catfishing
#728 - 5/10
:fish::cat::fish::cat::fish:
:cat::fish::cat::fish::cat:

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Connections
Puzzle #1106
:blue_square::blue_square::blue_square::blue_square:
:purple_square::purple_square::purple_square::purple_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:

:slightly_smiling_face: Daily Quordle 1609
:six::five:
:seven::four:

Daily Sequence Quordle 1609
:four::five:
:six::seven:

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Framed #1563
:movie_camera: :red_square: :red_square: :green_square: :black_large_square: :black_large_square: :black_large_square:
Heard of it.

Framed - One Frame Challenge #566
:movie_camera: :red_square: :green_square: :black_large_square: :black_large_square: :black_large_square: :black_large_square:
Seen it.

Wordle 1,828 5/6

:black_large_square::black_large_square::yellow_square::black_large_square::black_large_square:
:black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square:
:black_large_square::green_square::green_square::black_large_square::black_large_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::black_large_square::black_large_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:

Daily Dordle 1609 5&4/7
:white_large_square::green_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :yellow_square::yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square:
:white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square:
:white_large_square::yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::white_large_square::yellow_square::white_large_square::yellow_square:
:white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::green_square::white_large_square: :green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square: :black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square:

:slightly_smiling_face: Daily Quordle 1609
:red_square::eight:
:three::five:

Daily Sequence Quordle 1609
:three::four:
:five::six:

squareword.org 1602: 9 guesses

:green_square::yellow_square::green_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:
:green_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:
:green_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::green_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:green_square::green_square::yellow_square::green_square::green_square:

<6::green_square: <11::yellow_square: <16::orange_square: 16+::red_square:
#squareword #squareword1602

Connections
Puzzle #1106
:purple_square::purple_square::purple_square::purple_square:
:blue_square::blue_square::blue_square::blue_square:
:yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:

catfishing
#728 - 4/10
:fish::cat::fish::fish::fish:
:cat::fish::fish::cat::cat:

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Framed #1564
:movie_camera: :red_square: :red_square: :green_square: :black_large_square: :black_large_square: :black_large_square:
Seen it. Remember nothing of it.

Framed - One Frame Challenge #567
:movie_camera: :red_square: :red_square: :green_square: :black_large_square: :black_large_square: :black_large_square:
Seen it.

Wordle 1,829 3/6

:black_large_square::yellow_square::green_square::black_large_square::black_large_square:
:black_large_square::black_large_square::yellow_square::black_large_square::yellow_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:

Daily Dordle 1610 7&X/7
:white_large_square::yellow_square::green_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square:
:green_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :yellow_square::white_large_square::yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square:
:yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::yellow_square::yellow_square: :white_large_square::green_square::white_large_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::white_large_square::green_square: :yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::green_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::white_large_square::green_square: :yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::yellow_square::green_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::white_large_square::green_square: :yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::green_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square: :yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::green_square:

:slightly_smiling_face: Daily Quordle 1610
:eight::nine:
:four::seven:

Daily Sequence Quordle 1610
:five::six:
:seven::eight:

squareword.org 1603: 7 guesses

:yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:
:yellow_square::yellow_square::green_square::yellow_square::green_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:

<6::green_square: <11::yellow_square: <16::orange_square: 16+::red_square:
#squareword #squareword1603

Connections
Puzzle #1107
:purple_square::purple_square::purple_square::purple_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:blue_square::blue_square::blue_square::blue_square:
:yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:

catfishing
#729 - 3/10
:cat::fish::fish::fish::cat:
:cat::fish::fish::fish::fish:

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Loconundrum #99
:white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :locomotive::locomotive::locomotive:
:green_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :locomotive:
:green_square::green_square::green_square:
One lucky probe put me on a line I know quite well.

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Connections
Puzzle #1107
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:blue_square::blue_square::blue_square::blue_square:
:purple_square::purple_square::purple_square::purple_square:
:yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:

:slightly_smiling_face: Daily Quordle 1610
:five::four:
:eight::seven:

Daily Sequence Quordle 1610
:five::six:
:seven::eight:

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Connections
Puzzle #1107
:purple_square::purple_square::purple_square::purple_square:
:blue_square::blue_square::blue_square::blue_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:

Wordle 1,829 4/6
:black_large_square::black_large_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square:
:black_large_square::yellow_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:

:slightly_smiling_face: Daily Quordle 1610
:nine::six:
:three::red_square:

Daily Sequence Quordle 1610
:four::five:
:six::seven:

squareword.org 1603: 9 guesses
:yellow_square::green_square::yellow_square::green_square::yellow_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:green_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:
:yellow_square::yellow_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:green_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::green_square:

<6::green_square: <11::yellow_square: <16::orange_square: 16+::red_square:
#squareword #squareword1603

Framed #1564
:movie_camera: :red_square: :red_square: :green_square: :black_large_square: :black_large_square: :black_large_square:
Well, I mean, obvious?

Framed - One Frame Challenge #567
:movie_camera: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square:
Heard of it

I got a score of 3474 on today’s Chronophoto: 6/22/2026
Round 1: 453
Round 2: 396
Round 3: 924
Round 4: 777
Round 5: 924

catfishing
#729 - 5/10
:cat::cat::cat::cat::fish:
:fish::fish::fish::fish::cat:

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Loconundrum #100
:yellow_square::white_large_square::yellow_square: :man_walking::locomotive::locomotive:
:green_square::green_square::green_square:
Yeah, that was mostly on the letters, with the guess for #2 being based on the travel time.

Incidentally one can now play old puzzles from the archives.

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Connections
Puzzle #1108
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:purple_square::purple_square::purple_square::purple_square:
:yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:
:blue_square::blue_square::blue_square::blue_square:

Knew purple was purple once I found it, no idea on the order of the others.

:slightly_smiling_face: Daily Quordle 1611
:six::seven:
:four::one:

Feel like that’s the first time my starting word has been one of the four.

Daily Sequence Quordle 1611
:four::five:
:six::seven:

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Connections
Puzzle #1108
:purple_square::purple_square::purple_square::purple_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:blue_square::blue_square::blue_square::blue_square:
:yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:

Wordle 1,830 4/6
:black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square:
:green_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square:
:yellow_square::black_large_square::yellow_square::black_large_square::black_large_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:

:slightly_smiling_face: Daily Quordle 1611
:seven::six:
:eight::four:

Weekly Quordle Challenge 157
:four::six:
:eight::seven:

Daily Sequence Quordle 1611
:four::six:
:seven::eight:

squareword.org 1604: 8 guesses
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:green_square::yellow_square::green_square::yellow_square::green_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:yellow_square::green_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::green_square:
:yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:

<6::green_square: <11::yellow_square: <16::orange_square: 16+::red_square:
#squareword #squareword1604

Framed #1565
:movie_camera: :red_square: :red_square: :green_square: :black_large_square: :black_large_square: :black_large_square:
Seen it. Should have had it one earlier.

Framed - One Frame Challenge #568
:movie_camera: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square:
Heard of it

I got a score of 3531 on today’s Chronophoto: 6/23/2026
Round 1: 777
Round 2: 53
Round 3: 777
Round 4: 924
Round 5: 1000​:white_check_mark:

catfishing
#730 - 4/10
:cat::fish::fish::cat::cat:
:cat::fish::fish::fish::fish:
Several today I should have known and just missed major clues.

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Framed #1565
:movie_camera: :red_square: :green_square: :black_large_square: :black_large_square: :black_large_square: :black_large_square:
Not sure if I have seen this entirely or not.

Framed - One Frame Challenge #568
:movie_camera: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square:
Heard of it.

Wordle 1,830 4/6

:yellow_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::green_square:
:black_large_square::yellow_square::black_large_square::yellow_square::black_large_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::black_large_square::green_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:

Daily Dordle 1611 5&7/7
:white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square:
:yellow_square::white_large_square::green_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square:
:white_large_square::green_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::white_large_square::green_square::white_large_square::white_large_square:
:white_large_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square: :white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square: :white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square:
:black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square: :green_square::green_square::green_square::white_large_square::green_square:
:black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square: :green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:

:slightly_smiling_face: Daily Quordle 1611
:three::four:
:eight::seven:

Daily Sequence Quordle 1611
:five::six:
:seven::eight:

squareword.org 1604: 6 guesses

:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:yellow_square::green_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:

<6::green_square: <11::yellow_square: <16::orange_square: 16+::red_square:
#squareword #squareword1604
A 6! So rare for me!

Connections
Puzzle #1108
:yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::purple_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:purple_square::purple_square::purple_square::purple_square:
:blue_square::blue_square::blue_square::blue_square:

catfishing
#730 - 2/10
:fish::fish::cat::fish::cat:
:fish::fish::fish::fish::fish:

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Loconundrum #101
:white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :locomotive::locomotive:
:white_large_square::green_square::white_large_square: :locomotive::locomotive:
:white_large_square::green_square::white_large_square: :locomotive::locomotive::locomotive::locomotive:
:green_square::green_square::green_square:
I;m increasingly unconvinced by the travel times, and indeed by some of the routings. But they are at least indicative.

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Connections
Puzzle #1109
:blue_square::blue_square::blue_square::blue_square:
:purple_square::purple_square::purple_square::purple_square:
:yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:

:slightly_smiling_face: Daily Quordle 1612
:five::four:
:six::seven:

Daily Sequence Quordle 1612
:four::five:
:six::eight:

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Connections
Puzzle #1109
:purple_square::purple_square::purple_square::purple_square:
:blue_square::blue_square::blue_square::yellow_square:
:blue_square::green_square::blue_square::blue_square:
:blue_square::blue_square::blue_square::blue_square:
:yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:

Wordle 1,831 5/6
:black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::yellow_square:
:black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square:
:yellow_square::black_large_square::yellow_square::black_large_square::black_large_square:
:black_large_square::green_square::black_large_square::green_square::green_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:

:slightly_smiling_face: Daily Quordle 1612
:six::red_square:
:seven::nine:
I don’t know that word

Daily Sequence Quordle 1612
:four::six:
:seven::eight:

squareword.org 1605: 8 guesses
:yellow_square::yellow_square::green_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:
:green_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:green_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::green_square:

<6::green_square: <11::yellow_square: <16::orange_square: 16+::red_square:
#squareword #squareword1605

Framed #1566
:movie_camera: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square:
Sounds familiar

Framed - One Frame Challenge #569
:movie_camera: :red_square: :red_square: :green_square: :black_large_square: :black_large_square: :black_large_square:
Not seen

I got a score of 1708 on today’s Chronophoto: 6/24/2026
Round 1: 10
Round 2: 849
Round 3: 849
Round 4: 0​:cross_mark:
Round 5: 0​:cross_mark:

catfishing
#731 - 3.5/10
:cat::cat::fish::egg::cat:
:fish::fish::fish::fish::fish:
I can’t believe it didn’t give me credit for that.

The Valdez instead of Exxon Valdez

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Framed #1566
:movie_camera: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square: :red_square:
Haven’t seen it.

Framed - One Frame Challenge #569
:movie_camera: :green_square: :black_large_square: :black_large_square: :black_large_square: :black_large_square: :black_large_square:
Haven’t seen it, but remember seeing the trailer and guessed it was this. Couldn’t remember the name of the film so looked up an actor I knew was in the film and found the title. Maybe cheating.

Wordle 1,831 6/6

:yellow_square::yellow_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square:
:black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::yellow_square::black_large_square:
:black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square:
:black_large_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::green_square::black_large_square:
:black_large_square::green_square::black_large_square::green_square::green_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:

Daily Dordle 1612 6&7/7
:white_large_square::white_large_square::green_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :yellow_square::yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square:
:white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::yellow_square::white_large_square: :white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::yellow_square:
:white_large_square::white_large_square::yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :green_square::green_square::green_square::white_large_square::green_square:
:white_large_square::white_large_square::yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :green_square::green_square::green_square::white_large_square::green_square:
:white_large_square::white_large_square::yellow_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :green_square::green_square::green_square::white_large_square::green_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square: :white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square::yellow_square::white_large_square:
:black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square::black_large_square: :green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:

:slightly_smiling_face: Daily Quordle 1612
:three::five:
:seven::eight:

Daily Sequence Quordle 1612
:four::five:
:six::seven:

squareword.org 1605: 7 guesses

:yellow_square::yellow_square::green_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:
:green_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:

<6::green_square: <11::yellow_square: <16::orange_square: 16+::red_square:
#squareword #squareword1605

Connections
Puzzle #1109
:green_square::green_square::green_square::yellow_square:
:green_square::green_square::green_square::green_square:
:blue_square::blue_square::blue_square::blue_square:
:yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square::yellow_square:
:purple_square::purple_square::purple_square::purple_square:
Thought purple should have been green.

catfishing
#731 - 5/10
:cat::fish::fish::cat::cat:
:fish::cat::fish::cat::fish:

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I mean, what if you had meant the Texaco Valdez, the Chevron Valdez, or the Shell Valdez? :wink:

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Loconundrum #102
:white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :man_walking::locomotive:
:white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :locomotive::locomotive:
:white_large_square::white_large_square::white_large_square: :locomotive::locomotive::locomotive:
:white_large_square::white_large_square::green_square: :locomotive::locomotive:
:white_large_square::white_large_square::green_square: :locomotive::locomotive:
:white_large_square::white_large_square::green_square: :locomotive::locomotive:
:green_square::green_square::green_square:
Oof. Really no sense of a location today.