What Is Art!? (Baby Don't Hurt Me...)

This has gone back to that?!

But you are fairly clearly attempting to to act as the arbiter of that definition and accurate use of the word for all native English speakers…

Which is pretty much saying ā€œmy definition of art is the only appropriate and acceptable definition of art.ā€

I’ve pointed to my observations of how people use the word. I’m trying to propose a definition that fits that usage.

It seems to me that any definition that I offered would be subject to your saying ā€œWho are you to define words?ā€ But I don’t see why people should be forbidden to define words. I’ve criticized other people’s definitions of art; but I’ve never suggested that it was out of order for any of them to try to define it.

But we have established in this thread numerous definitions of the word, all from (I’m assuming) native English speakers.

Thus philosophy degenerates yet again to lexicography.

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Paging Ludwig Wittgenstein . . .

Seriously, a lot of philosophy involves pushing words outside of their ordinary meaning and context, to advance some particular thesis, without acknowledgment that such a thing is being done. And the particular merit of Wittgenstein and Austin’s writing was that it tended to emphasize that this was a problem, and to look at how people actually used words.

Yes, and you’re free to criticize mine. But if you’re just saying, ā€œWho do you think you are, to define a word?ā€ then I’m going to ignore you.

I’m criticizing your assertion that your definition is the only acceptable definition to be prescribed to others’ conception of art, which you say you’re not doing, then proceed to do just that. Is that really not registering?

OK. this thread is done. Direct attacks are Not On.

It was worth a try to have this discussion, but it hasn’t worked and it’s been going round in circles for days now.

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