# Twilight Struggle PBF 2, public thread

**URL:** <https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/twilight-struggle-pbf-2-public-thread/4451>\
**Category:** Play by Post\
**Created:** [7 October 2022 03:30 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/twilight-struggle-pbf-2-public-thread/4451 "2022-10-07T03:30:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\
**Post date:** [12 November 2022 11:14 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/twilight-struggle-pbf-2-public-thread/4451/41 "2022-11-12T11:14:51Z")

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Coup roll: 1

Formosan Resolution, Iran to 2/0, Afghanistan to 1/0

![image](https://discussion.tekeli.li/uploads/default/original/3X/9/4/94afac5a2a32c7d6c78f0f514e2bf03cbf852697.jpeg)

Do we want to desalinisation this turn?

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**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\
**Post date:** [14 November 2022 16:54 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/twilight-struggle-pbf-2-public-thread/4451/42 "2022-11-14T16:54:21Z")

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So @Captbnut out of Finland and Yugoslavia and into…

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**Author:** ![Captbnut](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/captbnut/32/21513_2.png) [@Captbnut](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Captbnut)\
**Post date:** [14 November 2022 18:07 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/twilight-struggle-pbf-2-public-thread/4451/43 "2022-11-14T18:07:23Z")

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Just what you need against Ben, a comically bad roll.

What’s DEFCON, 3? If we DeStalinize before DEFCON 2 then he can coup us and we lose the advantage.

We’d be better off couping in Iraq imo

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**Author:** ![Chewy77](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/chewy77/32/1035_2.png) [@Chewy77](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Chewy77)\
**Post date:** [15 November 2022 03:15 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/twilight-struggle-pbf-2-public-thread/4451/44 "2022-11-15T03:15:19Z")

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Oh, Gosh, I was supposed to be following this. Sorry!!

Middle East sounds great, but is it worth it since the score card has been played already? By playing there you are announcing you have no score cards, isn’t it better to go elsewhere (Panama?) and make him think we have a score card he needs to worry about?

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**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\
**Post date:** [16 November 2022 15:36 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/twilight-struggle-pbf-2-public-thread/4451/45 "2022-11-16T15:36:54Z")

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Defcon is 4.

So where do we want to coup and with what card?

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**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\
**Post date:** [19 November 2022 15:53 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/twilight-struggle-pbf-2-public-thread/4451/46 "2022-11-19T15:53:38Z")

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![image](https://discussion.tekeli.li/uploads/default/original/3X/4/f/4f62130c26456dd99852653bf14621f9b3df5d06.jpeg)

Current hand.

I say we destabilisation now, into Chile, South Africa and India. The last turn was a washout we couped he restored it.

Let’s give him three headaches.

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**Author:** ![Chewy77](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/chewy77/32/1035_2.png) [@Chewy77](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Chewy77)\
**Post date:** [21 November 2022 03:18 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/twilight-struggle-pbf-2-public-thread/4451/47 "2022-11-21T03:18:04Z")

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> [@RossM](#):
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> Let’s give him three headaches.

I wonder what headaches he will respond with…

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**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\
**Post date:** [22 November 2022 18:26 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/twilight-struggle-pbf-2-public-thread/4451/48 "2022-11-22T18:26:02Z")

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Defectors to put Pakistan to 2/0

 ![0006map](https://discussion.tekeli.li/uploads/default/original/3X/5/a/5a8c200cbe602fc33c9eeb62591056c30ddf09a5.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\
**Post date:** [22 November 2022 20:31 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/twilight-struggle-pbf-2-public-thread/4451/49 "2022-11-22T20:31:09Z")

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Nice easy one.

Marshall plan

2 influence to gain control of India.

2 influence into South Korea, so we can lock it off next turn

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**Author:** ![Chewy77](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/chewy77/32/1035_2.png) [@Chewy77](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Chewy77)\
**Post date:** [22 November 2022 23:46 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/twilight-struggle-pbf-2-public-thread/4451/50 "2022-11-22T23:46:17Z")

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Yes, Asia score card cannot be too far away…

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**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\
**Post date:** [23 November 2022 11:27 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/twilight-struggle-pbf-2-public-thread/4451/51 "2022-11-23T11:27:30Z")

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Lock it in?

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**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\
**Post date:** [23 November 2022 15:51 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/twilight-struggle-pbf-2-public-thread/4451/52 "2022-11-23T15:51:40Z")

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@Captbnut ??

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**Author:** ![Captbnut](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/captbnut/32/21513_2.png) [@Captbnut](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Captbnut)\
**Post date:** [23 November 2022 15:56 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/twilight-struggle-pbf-2-public-thread/4451/53 "2022-11-23T15:56:14Z")

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Go for it.

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**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\
**Post date:** [25 November 2022 07:40 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/twilight-struggle-pbf-2-public-thread/4451/54 "2022-11-25T07:40:46Z")

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![0007map](https://discussion.tekeli.li/uploads/default/original/3X/5/4/54e96aa971b717d7106c65ab2af706f5aeccb2a4.jpeg)

Marshall distribution as pictured: Canada, UK, France, W. Germany, Spain, Greece, Turkey

Nasser for event, coup Egypt, roll 5.

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**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\
**Post date:** [25 November 2022 07:44 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/twilight-struggle-pbf-2-public-thread/4451/55 "2022-11-25T07:44:21Z")

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Thoughts?

Play Warsaw pact for influence.

1 in South Korea and 2 in Iraq to claim both battlegrounds?

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**Author:** ![Captbnut](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/captbnut/32/21513_2.png) [@Captbnut](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Captbnut)\
**Post date:** [25 November 2022 08:41 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/twilight-struggle-pbf-2-public-thread/4451/56 "2022-11-25T08:41:26Z")

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That sounds good

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**Author:** ![Mantis43](https://discussion.tekeli.li/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Mantis43](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Mantis43)\
**Post date:** [25 November 2022 11:18 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/twilight-struggle-pbf-2-public-thread/4451/57 "2022-11-25T11:18:16Z")

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Greetings… I popped into this forum as I enjoy the Whartson Hall podcast… and stumbled across this. I happen to be a friend of Ben’s… (I taught him how to play TS in fact though I’m rather out of practice as I dislike online play) so I won’t intervene after this. However I can’t help but notice that you have CIA and 5 Year Plan in hand and have used the China Card… which means that you are putting yourself in a potentially game losing situation if DEFCON goes to 2.

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**Author:** ![RogerBW](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rogerbw/32/3_2.png) [@RogerBW](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RogerBW)\
**Post date:** [25 November 2022 11:41 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/twilight-struggle-pbf-2-public-thread/4451/58 "2022-11-25T11:41:54Z")

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Welcome to the board!

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**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\
**Post date:** [25 November 2022 22:37 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/twilight-struggle-pbf-2-public-thread/4451/59 "2022-11-25T22:37:07Z")

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Hey @Mantis43 !

Here are my thoughts.

We play Korean War this turn for influence next turn we play

5 year plan

Or

Space 5 year plan if we’re at defcon 2

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**Author:** ![Captbnut](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/captbnut/32/21513_2.png) [@Captbnut](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Captbnut)\
**Post date:** [26 November 2022 07:24 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/twilight-struggle-pbf-2-public-thread/4451/60 "2022-11-26T07:24:23Z")

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It’s better if we can defuse them safely to get them out of the game.

I can’t remember if it’s safe to headline CIA in turn 2. There’s a risk if he co headlines Olympic Games but has he got other DEFCON lowering options he’d play?

Ben knows the deck though. I imagine he could guess we’ve got one or both of CIA or 5YP because he’s now got the China Card.

What is DEFCON currently?

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