The other thing I am liking from crowd-founding is the reprints. I am getting Xia through KS, and it was impossible to find anywhere.
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I originally dipped my toe into Kickstarter as a way to pick up reprints or new editions of games that had already been well-received by the critics and there be enough info out in the wild to get an idea what the game is really like.
I strayed from that quite a bit in the last few years, learned my lesson, and am back to just that (with a few exceptions for true-Indie small, low-cost projects)
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Pinnacle has started their âcrowdfundingâ campaign for a new Savage Worlds Fantasy Companion.
It really just looks like a pre-order.
I am running a fantasy campaign using Savage Worlds right now, but Iâve bought the Fantasy Campaign before and bought the Fantasy Toolkit PDFs even before that. I donât know if I want to buy it a third time.
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Hope people donât mind me posting this in here, but Iâm launching another game, but on Gamefound instead of Kickstarter: Damask. Itâs a game in which you collect silk cubes from a spinning wheel and build a tableau of patterns. Not desinged by me, but by Barabara Burfoot (her first design). You can follow it here if youâre interested:
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I declare bias: Iâve played a demo game of this and very much enjoyed it. 
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The request has been submitted and there is now a hashtag: #SearchForMeeple
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So have any of you taken a closer look at Last Light?
Anyone backing or not backing it? Red Flags besides the price?
It certainly looks interestingâthough I am not sure how well the transition from reviewer to designer can work⌠and the rulebook looks well enough for all that it says itâs a draft.
But then Assault on Doomrock also goes live later todayâŚâtoo much listening to SVWAG 
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$109 pre tax is a real heavy load for âIâm kind of interestedâ.
Also, if you were to ask me what gets me excited about the game I donât think i could tell you outside of the cool planet pieces. The game might be good but itâs really hard to get a feel of where the fun is. It could be easier to see once inside playing it but that doesnât help with a kickstarter!
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Yeah, taking a look itâs one Iâd probably play but for ÂŁ70+ I can think of many other things Iâd buy.
Seems to be doing well though.
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- First published game by this designer.
- Rotating board feels like a gimmick, gaudy coloured bits donât help that perception.
- Grey Fox have a not-great rep for crowdfunding fulfilment (though to be fair my Deception: Murder in Hong Kong came through all right).
Seems like a fairly straightforward game for quite a lot of money (even without the component upgrades).
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I think there is a TTS mod. But Iâve been too lazy to TTS recently.
In any case. The ruleset seems pretty light as far as I can tell from skimming the rulebook. It looks promising but not for the price point which is my major gripe with it. Especially with all the added shipping and VAT stuff⌠the first Kickstarter to give me a âhereâs your full priceâ on every tier is going to get my moneyâat least include VAT! I understand shipping is terrible now. But I hear multiplication isnât all that hard. (sorry not sorry, not listing VAT is a major pet-peeve of mine)
I was mostly asking out of curiosity about what everyone thinks, itâs just a little too expensive for me. If does the âquick 4Xâ thing well enough, I am reasonably certain either this or a similar enough game will visit a retail outlet near me.
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I feel like âretail availability is unlikelyâ is a huge red flag.
But, then again, Iâm the one whoâs been trying to track down a reasonably-priced copy of Claustrophobia 1643.
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I think itâs more of a âmediumâ though because how much of a red flag it really is varies with each campaign employing the trope.
Sometimes it is just fair to say that there are no plans for retail because people will ask about it anyway. But yeah, announcing it like that in the banner is a bit⌠meh. Still, I am going to scroll through the thing later to check out the details.
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Thereâs been a copy of Assault on Doomrock plus expansion kicking around on UK ebay unsold for ÂŁ25
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I appreciate the upfront honesty of it (assuming it is an honest statement). Going to retail involves headaches and scale above and beyond crowd funding fulfillment. But maybe things will change during or even after the campaign, such as a publisher or distributor who wants to do a retail version. If a retail version does appear, they donât want to be called out as being deceptive if they had initially said there would be no retail version.
Saying that a retail version is unlikely in the banner (rather than burying it in the FAQ) is a marketing ploy designed to trigger FOMO, but itâs an honest marketing ploy. If you are doing a limited print run, itâs fine to advertise that.
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SVWAG have also tempted me to check this out. However SVWAG also tempted me in to Street Masters which was boring. However there are some games SVWAG have got me in to I like, Calimala as an example.
So in summary 
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Hahaha. It was reading the post!
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I have to admit that I have previously seen Kickstarters with VAT included. I think some European publishers will be more likely to include VAT because thatâs how you list prices in most countries around here and this is a Polish publisher.
It may also have to do with the move to Gamefound. Kickstarter & VAT is a neverending saga (others might say shitshow) and now with the legal loopholes closed the whole businessmodel for crowdfunding is endangered because suddenly the prices arenât that much less than retail. And Gamefound has less of a history with this issue. I am sure a major draw for people was paying less. Add the current (and probably persistent) shipping issues, just scroll through this thread how everyone thinks that itâs not a good deal anymore to do crowdfunding.
Of course, not charging VAT because somehow they werenât âselling a productâ was a lie anyway and I for one had to pay customs on every single KS pre-VAT-charging and customs handling fees on top of customs.
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