The Crowdfunding Thread

That still holds up although the quantities depends on the part and size. 3d printing is a lot more expensive so it mostly comes down to tooling cost.

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Habitats, Nine Lives, and Basketboss by BoardGameTables.com — Kickstarter

Another board game tables KS

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Twin Palms by Bink Ink LLC — Kickstarter

Another trick-taking game.
Reasons:
1.) It’s low cost, so I’m like “why not?”.
2.) I am not sure if it’s gonna be in retail. Not exactly a big name publisher
3.) Trick-taking!

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You had me at trick-taking

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My pledge of Return to Dark Tower arrived today. I haven’t unpacked the shipping containers yet. I may need to clean the game room some to have even the tiniest chance of finding shelf space for it.

My Doctor Who PJ legs for scale.

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Haven’t yet put it on a shelf, but have got Dark Tower to the table and played two games of it. It barely fits at two players. We’ll have to bring in side tables if we want any more people.

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Tower needs more Giant Flaming Eyeball.

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Why are the player boards not rounded to fit with the board? That tower thing is huge…

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That’s a beast!

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Round table suits the board well.

Still waiting on my copy to arrive let me know how it plays.

Both games we played so far were 2-player, coop, with the expansion. We had one tight moment in each game where a wrong turn could have made us lose but then got out of it pretty quickly and otherwise never felt like we were in serious danger. We’re going to try clicking the option for higher difficulty next time to see how that goes. We’ve enjoyed the two games we played and the puzzle of figuring out the best course to get all the current mini quests while still making progress toward the overall quest.

The expansion has mini boards that add to the sides that are curved to fit the edge of the main board (visible in my image above). Perhaps player boards couldn’t be curved because they weren’t sure if they should fit outside the original board or the expansion boards? The expansion boards already don’t quite line up with the main board in my image because we are playing on the mat which is larger than the actual board that comes with the game. The mat has the same layout as the actual board, just larger.

Somebody else’s image stolen from the internet comparing the mat and the board:

Source

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That did not go well. We lost. Then set it up to try again and immediately lost again. Oops.

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So this arrived:

Given the dimensions, I’d imagined it as a standard TTR box.

I couldn’t have been more wrong.

It’s actually about 50% larger than that in both directions, making it easily the biggest game I own, even discounting the fact that it’s made of wood.

Then you unfold it and… Yeah. It’s as wide as my (RV sized) bed.

(All the stuff, with 30cm/12in ruler to scale)

And who needs some flimsy 3-10 pages? It’s a rule book, not a rule leaflet!

Here you can see, it’s about 1.3 cm (admittedly it’s footprint is quite small, and it repeats everything in English, Italian, French and German). But there is an additional pamphlet thing for the lore. So yeah.

I don’t expect to ever play this and never did, it’s pretty much purely as a display piece, documenting two golden ages: that of Airships, and that of Kickstarters :sweat_smile:

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Has anyone taken a closer look at Casting Shadows?

When I first saw this I was intrigued: cute characters and art and hex fields and spells and custom dice. But then I scrolled and scrolled and scrolled… through Kickstarter exclusives and those aren‘t just deluxe components but a lot of extras that every other campaign would have as stretch goal (and even that I dislike these days). It feels like if you just back the base game and not the Kickstarter Exclusive version you are getting half a game. So next I looked up pricing:

  • VAT not included
  • Shipping meh
  • 30€ for the incomplete basic game
  • 50€ for some additional cards and hexes and…
  • it goes up to 250€ for the super collectible Collectors‘ Superedition (isn‘t it ridiculous to offer a collector‘s edition for an unknown game?) with collectible Collectibles?

I looked up what else they did: Here to Slay. Which I have seen everywhere and mentioned nowhere. So widely available and yet I have not heard anyone who played it?!

How does this game get 20k backers? Is it really on the presentation alone or did they all check out the rules and go „this is going to be soooo awesome“. I admit I have not checked out the rules.

This is the kind of thing I want to back so badly because it ticks a lot of boxes but the parade of red flags on the KS… … so I backed and unbacked it 30 minutes later. Anyone else confused like me?

The first rules thing I see is “at the start of your turn, you roll dice to get resources”. And I think about Alien Frontiers, where you similarly can’t make any plans for how you’ll take your turn until your turn actually starts, and how much that drags if a player is at all AP-prone.

I’ve played Unstable Unicorns and it’s all right as a play-once amusement. I don’t intend ever to play it again.

Kickstarter-exclusive gameplay content is a bit of a black mark for me as well.

I mean, points back on for having an axolotl, but that only gets you so far.

And with all these extras you still only get 5 dice even in the super-duper vinyl figures edition? So you have to pass them round the table?

The only people who get photos rather than cartoon representations are two white dudes. (Granted, if I designed a game it would also have a photo of a white dude.)

Lots of emphasis on all the stuff you get, very little on the gameplay.

No indication in the rules that they’ve done anything about the “A and B fight, C wins” problem. (Mind you not every game can be War of the Nine Realms.)

Very little that’s positive for me here. It smells of having had a Kickstarter-advertising person in charge.

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Thanks this is really helpful in preventing any further „attempts“ on my part.
Since I am really trying to have as few games as possible that I simple own to own them, this would make for a frustrating experience I am sure.

→ Rolling for resources with a single set of dice, that‘s a two big gripes. I mean we got miffed with the 2 dice for Space Base and those are regular D6 and there are extra dice in the Command Station…

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The shipping think has really turned me off kickstarters. Whatever price they show feels as much in shipping and tax which makes me think what is the real benefit of this act? I’m not sure really anymore.

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I can see why they don’t want to charge shipping up front, but I agree, it makes it harder to decide rationally.

There are kickstarters that have reasonable shipping rates but yeah a lot of them have rates that feel inflated even beyond the shipping issues that came with the pandemic and are likely here to stay.

By the time I am done calculating VAT and shipping and VAT for shipping, the prices that are listed on the pledge levels feel like a lie…

Recently, I backed a game via crowdfinder for the first time. I will find out next year how that works out. I still have to pay some shipping but I assume that they use their normal rates for that.

What’s crowdfinder?