# Star Trek Ascendancy (recruitment) **URL:** \ **Category:** Play by Post\ **Created:** [8 September 2021 15:04 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/star-trek-ascendancy-recruitment/3156 "2021-09-08T15:04:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\ **Post date:** [27 March 2022 08:21 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/star-trek-ascendancy-recruitment/3156/441 "2022-03-27T08:21:04Z")
Although the ferengi colouring is awful ---
**Author:** ![RogerBW](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rogerbw/32/3_2.png) [@RogerBW](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RogerBW)\ **Post date:** [27 March 2022 08:22 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/star-trek-ascendancy-recruitment/3156/442 "2022-03-27T08:22:51Z")
Yes! Cardassians aren’t great but the Ferengi just fade into the background. ---
**Author:** ![Carletto80](https://discussion.tekeli.li/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/dec6dc/32.png) [@Carletto80](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Carletto80)\ **Post date:** [30 March 2022 00:06 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/star-trek-ascendancy-recruitment/3156/443 "2022-03-30T00:06:46Z")
wait: aren’t “your trade agreements” the TAs you **hold** , and not **those from your faction**??? 😲 😲 😲 😲 ---
**Author:** ![RogerBW](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rogerbw/32/3_2.png) [@RogerBW](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RogerBW)\ **Post date:** [30 March 2022 08:16 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/star-trek-ascendancy-recruitment/3156/444 "2022-03-30T08:16:37Z")
> [@Carletto80](#): > > aren’t “your trade agreements” the TAs you **hold** , and not **those from your faction**??? Good question. All the card says is “your trade agreements”. ---
**Author:** ![Lordof1](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/lordof1/32/5_2.png) [@Lordof1](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Lordof1)\ **Post date:** [30 March 2022 09:07 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/star-trek-ascendancy-recruitment/3156/445 "2022-03-30T09:07:33Z")
I think it seems more likely that the ones I hold are exhausted? More a punishment for me than everyone else? But I suppose there are similar encounters. What does everyone else think? Maybe I’ll ask on BGG but I suspect someone already has. ---
**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\ **Post date:** [30 March 2022 09:08 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/star-trek-ascendancy-recruitment/3156/446 "2022-03-30T09:08:33Z")
What’s the card called? Is there a picture? ---
**Author:** ![Lordof1](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/lordof1/32/5_2.png) [@Lordof1](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Lordof1)\ **Post date:** [30 March 2022 09:09 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/star-trek-ascendancy-recruitment/3156/447 "2022-03-30T09:09:20Z")
‘Cardassian delegation’ is the card. I’m having a Google but no luck so far. ---
**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\ **Post date:** [30 March 2022 09:09 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/star-trek-ascendancy-recruitment/3156/448 "2022-03-30T09:09:21Z")
There’s a xenophobic card that cancels all trade agreements. What’s the wording on that one? ---
**Author:** ![Lordof1](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/lordof1/32/5_2.png) [@Lordof1](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Lordof1)\ **Post date:** [30 March 2022 09:16 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/star-trek-ascendancy-recruitment/3156/449 "2022-03-30T09:16:27Z")
Well, Googling led me back to this forum 😂. I’m happy to go with it being the trade agreements I hold, rather than the Klingon Agreements I’ve given out. Here’s the card image. Does blue usually mean good? Although it -would- be good if I was Cardassian. ![image](https://discussion.tekeli.li/uploads/default/original/2X/d/d3b5d4e028aee550de91e3c273f18a28b8fb855e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![RogerBW](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rogerbw/32/3_2.png) [@RogerBW](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RogerBW)\ **Post date:** [30 March 2022 09:27 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/star-trek-ascendancy-recruitment/3156/450 "2022-03-30T09:27:12Z")
Didn’t find anything on bgg. ---
**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\ **Post date:** [30 March 2022 09:29 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/star-trek-ascendancy-recruitment/3156/451 "2022-03-30T09:29:46Z")
Ok. So the first half of the card says your trade agreements generate resources. Do we think that’s for the holder? Logically it would be the agreements they hold they would then be exhausted? ---
**Author:** ![Lordof1](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/lordof1/32/5_2.png) [@Lordof1](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Lordof1)\ **Post date:** [30 March 2022 09:31 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/star-trek-ascendancy-recruitment/3156/452 "2022-03-30T09:31:18Z")
Being logical and following the theme, it seems unlikely to me that aggressive negotiations give resources to the other players honestly. I think throughout the card ‘your trade agreements’ must mean ‘Trade agreements you hold’. Another alternative… it means both, that is both the ones you hold and the ones you have given out. ---
**Author:** ![Lordof1](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/lordof1/32/5_2.png) [@Lordof1](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Lordof1)\ **Post date:** [30 March 2022 09:32 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/star-trek-ascendancy-recruitment/3156/453 "2022-03-30T09:32:17Z")
I’m inclined to agree. Again, poorly worded! ---
**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\ **Post date:** [30 March 2022 09:35 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/star-trek-ascendancy-recruitment/3156/454 "2022-03-30T09:35:27Z")
Argh. If you hold a Cardassian trade agreement, your trade agreements…. Implying the Cardassian trade agreement is not one of your trade agreements? Argh ---
**Author:** ![Lordof1](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/lordof1/32/5_2.png) [@Lordof1](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Lordof1)\ **Post date:** [30 March 2022 09:41 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/star-trek-ascendancy-recruitment/3156/455 "2022-03-30T09:41:15Z")
I think that’s just more poor/ ambiguous wording personally. The theme of the card suggests it’s the agreements you hold to me. ---
**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\ **Post date:** [30 March 2022 09:56 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/star-trek-ascendancy-recruitment/3156/456 "2022-03-30T09:56:54Z")
I have no idea! ---
**Author:** ![RogerBW](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rogerbw/32/3_2.png) [@RogerBW](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RogerBW)\ **Post date:** [30 March 2022 09:58 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/star-trek-ascendancy-recruitment/3156/457 "2022-03-30T09:58:13Z")
Moved everything over here. Crisis: Antedean Terrorist Plot has you roll \>A or return “all TAs you hold”. Crisis: Writ of Accountability has you roll +A \>6 or return “all TAs you hold”. Crisis: Xenophobic Uprising has you roll +A \>6 or reclaim “all your TAs held by rivals”. So I think a strict reading supports “your TAs” = “the TAs that say [your power] on them”. But I’m usually on the other side of this argument, because with these game designers, you _can’t_ rely on strict reading. And thematically I think “the TAs you hold” makes more sense. I’ll make the change, and raise a BGG query. ---
**Author:** ![Lordof1](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/lordof1/32/5_2.png) [@Lordof1](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Lordof1)\ **Post date:** [30 March 2022 09:59 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/star-trek-ascendancy-recruitment/3156/458 "2022-03-30T09:59:38Z")
I’ve just asked, Roger, so no need to duplicate. [https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/2840452/cardassian-delegation-and-trade-agreements](https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/2840452/cardassian-delegation-and-trade-agreements) ---
**Author:** ![Carletto80](https://discussion.tekeli.li/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/dec6dc/32.png) [@Carletto80](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Carletto80)\ **Post date:** [30 March 2022 11:20 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/star-trek-ascendancy-recruitment/3156/459 "2022-03-30T11:20:07Z")
I admit I agree that “the TAs from your faction” is a more consistent interpretation of the wording… … yet it would be strange for an Exploration card to only affect rivals instead of the actual active player who explored the system! ---
**Author:** ![RogerBW](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rogerbw/32/3_2.png) [@RogerBW](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RogerBW)\ **Post date:** [31 March 2022 08:24 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/star-trek-ascendancy-recruitment/3156/460 "2022-03-31T08:24:53Z")
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