# Standard Value Units

**URL:** <https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/standard-value-units/1574>\
**Category:** Flat Black\
**Created:** [10 August 2020 06:39 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/standard-value-units/1574 "2020-08-10T06:39:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Agemegos](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/agemegos/32/15077_2.png) [@Agemegos](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Agemegos)\
**Post date:** [19 August 2020 10:05 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/standard-value-units/1574/21 "2020-08-19T10:05:20Z")

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It’s really only a game mechanic. But let’s have a look. ℟ for ricardo? I think I’m going to want ₹ for some colonies’ rupees or rupiah.

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**Author:** ![Agemegos](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/agemegos/32/15077_2.png) [@Agemegos](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Agemegos)\
**Post date:** [19 August 2020 10:09 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/standard-value-units/1574/22 "2020-08-19T10:09:34Z")

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> [@RogerBW](#):
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> Generally I don’t favour repurposing symbols that already have a meaning elsewhere unless the meaning is analogous.

Fair enough. want to use ₢ for [Imperial] crowns, but the cruzeiro is obsolete.

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**Author:** ![whswhs](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/whswhs/32/2794_2.png) [@whswhs](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/whswhs)\
**Post date:** [19 August 2020 12:20 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/standard-value-units/1574/23 "2020-08-19T12:20:32Z")

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> [@Agemegos](#):
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> It’s really only a game mechanic. But let’s have a look. ℟ for ricardo? I think I’m going to want ₹ for some colonies’ rupees or rupiah.

For me, at least, part of the point is there where actual currency units have symbols like $ or ¥, metric units are called m or J or kg or Pa. So a metric unit of value might just be the R or the S.

Alternatively, why not borrow the Ø, with its suggestion of the empty set?

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**Author:** ![Agemegos](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/agemegos/32/15077_2.png) [@Agemegos](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Agemegos)\
**Post date:** [19 August 2020 12:36 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/standard-value-units/1574/24 "2020-08-19T12:36:34Z")

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“P” for Penn?

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**Author:** ![whswhs](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/whswhs/32/2794_2.png) [@whswhs](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/whswhs)\
**Post date:** [19 August 2020 13:36 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/standard-value-units/1574/25 "2020-08-19T13:36:35Z")

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The founder of Pennsylvania? I’m not sure why his name would be linked to a scientific unit. Did he leave any writings on economics?

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**Author:** ![Agemegos](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/agemegos/32/15077_2.png) [@Agemegos](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Agemegos)\
**Post date:** [19 August 2020 13:51 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/standard-value-units/1574/26 "2020-08-19T13:51:42Z")

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University of Pennsylvania, after which the [Penn effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penn_effect) is named.

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**Author:** ![martinl](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/martinl/32/530_2.png) [@martinl](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/martinl)\
**Post date:** [20 August 2020 00:44 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/standard-value-units/1574/27 "2020-08-20T00:44:21Z")

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> [@Agemegos](#):
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> …I _do_ want to replicate the experience of…

OK, I see why you want it, but I still recommend focusing on the experience (which most players will appreciate) and not the economics (which many will find tedious). My experience with exposing players to “look at the cool technical background for this chunk of world building” has convinced me to avoid it when possible.

On the other hand, if your intended audience is sufficiently geeky, go the other way.

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**Author:** ![Agemegos](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/agemegos/32/15077_2.png) [@Agemegos](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Agemegos)\
**Post date:** [20 August 2020 01:13 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/standard-value-units/1574/28 "2020-08-20T01:13:53Z")

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There are [going to be] two “price” columns in each price list and one parameter in each world listing, with a simple rule involving a multiplication. There will not be a textbook on the small-country model of international trade, let alone on the Hecksher-Ohlin model.

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**Author:** ![whswhs](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/whswhs/32/2794_2.png) [@whswhs](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/whswhs)\
**Post date:** [21 August 2020 08:01 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/standard-value-units/1574/29 "2020-08-21T08:01:05Z")

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> [@Agemegos](#):
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> University of Pennsylvania, after which the [Penn effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penn_effect) is named.

Well, I don’t think I know of any metric unit that’s named for an institution or organization. Metric units are named for individuals: Newton, Joule, Watt, Poiseuille, Pascal, Coulomb, Ampere, Volta, Ohm, Faraday, Henry, Tesla, Kelvin. Or they just have descriptive labels, but I’m not sure of the Greek root for a unit of exchange . . .

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**Author:** ![Agemegos](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/agemegos/32/15077_2.png) [@Agemegos](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Agemegos)\
**Post date:** [21 August 2020 09:13 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/standard-value-units/1574/30 "2020-08-21T09:13:22Z")

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True enough. But it’s just a game mechanic, I don’t see that it has to be a metric unit.

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**Author:** ![whswhs](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/whswhs/32/2794_2.png) [@whswhs](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/whswhs)\
**Post date:** [21 August 2020 12:34 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/standard-value-units/1574/31 "2020-08-21T12:34:32Z")

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> [@Agemegos](#):
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> But it’s just a game mechanic, I don’t see that it has to be a metric unit.

Of course it doesn’t have to. But that’s the joke I was making.

If you’re thinking of it as a game mechanic . . . well, in GURPS, there are hit points (HP) and fatigue points (FP) and now control points (CP), and back when I was working on GURPS Social Engineering there were people who wanted a combat-like system with some sort of points as well. So in GURPS I suppose you might say Wealth Points (WP). Or in a different system you could use some gamelike abbreviation for what is, as you say, simply a game mechanic.

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