# Sleeping Gods, boo to Gary Gygax, and nostlagia for Fighting Fantasy gamebooks **URL:** \ **Category:** Boardgames\ **Created:** [14 May 2021 15:38 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/sleeping-gods-boo-to-gary-gygax-and-nostlagia-for-fighting-fantasy-gamebooks/2751 "2021-05-14T15:38:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![SteveB\_uk](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/steveb_uk/32/26030_2.png) [@SteveB\_uk](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/SteveB_uk)\ **Post date:** [3 September 2024 10:32 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/sleeping-gods-boo-to-gary-gygax-and-nostlagia-for-fighting-fantasy-gamebooks/2751/101 "2024-09-03T10:32:01Z")
The FF convention I mentioned above is this weekend, tickets on sale until Thursday. Iain McCaig is doing both a talk and signing art, so I’m gonna go. ![image](https://discussion.tekeli.li/uploads/default/original/3X/6/b/6b33922635b8ac3da88e3cde48c6a201f1d4563b.jpeg) [https://www.fightingfantasy.com/fighting-fantasy-fest-5-event-page](https://www.fightingfantasy.com/fighting-fantasy-fest-5-event-page) ---
**Author:** ![SteveB\_uk](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/steveb_uk/32/26030_2.png) [@SteveB\_uk](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/SteveB_uk)\ **Post date:** [7 September 2024 12:29 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/sleeping-gods-boo-to-gary-gygax-and-nostlagia-for-fighting-fantasy-gamebooks/2751/102 "2024-09-07T12:29:17Z")
Well that was fun. Maximum nostalgia as usual. McCaig is an incredibly energetic joker. When asked if several hours signing books was tiring, he explained he draws ALL DAY standing up and then draws on the iPad in bed, so no he’s fine. (Iain McCaig and Sir Ian Livingstone in the first pic). ![PXL_20240907_115159722~3](https://discussion.tekeli.li/uploads/default/original/3X/b/1/b15182c14503ac2ff5272240ccab407bb0a2a839.jpeg) ![PXL_20240907_083921818~2](https://discussion.tekeli.li/uploads/default/original/3X/3/1/31e7b5d0cb3ed30ee0368f825616d010276a6cf1.jpeg) ![PXL_20240907_085450915~2](https://discussion.tekeli.li/uploads/default/original/3X/c/4/c473ed5654858a6948a248365e2d6b209c3ef3ae.jpeg) ![PXL_20240907_085405398~2](https://discussion.tekeli.li/uploads/default/original/3X/3/2/3295530dc6c7ab8c05691b836a5ee195be46d59f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![SteveB\_uk](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/steveb_uk/32/26030_2.png) [@SteveB\_uk](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/SteveB_uk)\ **Post date:** [17 October 2024 18:17 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/sleeping-gods-boo-to-gary-gygax-and-nostlagia-for-fighting-fantasy-gamebooks/2751/103 "2024-10-17T18:17:15Z")
In a move designed to confuse the maximum amount of people, Steve Jackson Games (US) are going to be publishing the Ian Livingstone and Steve Jackson (UK) Fighting Fantasy books in the US. 50 of them, apparently. ![image](https://discussion.tekeli.li/uploads/default/original/3X/1/0/1086621f0d5571c9a9eb78ec113e259443a75911.jpeg) [https://www.sjgames.com/fightingfantasy/](https://www.sjgames.com/fightingfantasy/) ---
**Author:** ![BigJackBrass](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/bigjackbrass/32/4_2.png) [@BigJackBrass](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/BigJackBrass)\ **Post date:** [17 October 2024 18:36 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/sleeping-gods-boo-to-gary-gygax-and-nostlagia-for-fighting-fantasy-gamebooks/2751/104 "2024-10-17T18:36:43Z")
Including the ones Steve Jackson (US) wrote? 😀 ---
**Author:** ![SteveB\_uk](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/steveb_uk/32/26030_2.png) [@SteveB\_uk](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/SteveB_uk)\ **Post date:** [17 October 2024 18:56 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/sleeping-gods-boo-to-gary-gygax-and-nostlagia-for-fighting-fantasy-gamebooks/2751/105 "2024-10-17T18:56:01Z")
Probably! I didn’t realise Scorpion Swamp was him, that’s a really early one. ---
**Author:** ![BigJackBrass](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/bigjackbrass/32/4_2.png) [@BigJackBrass](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/BigJackBrass)\ **Post date:** [17 October 2024 19:32 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/sleeping-gods-boo-to-gary-gygax-and-nostlagia-for-fighting-fantasy-gamebooks/2751/106 "2024-10-17T19:32:28Z")
Number 8, if I recall. And a robot one I think. It’s been a while. ---
**Author:** ![RogerBW](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rogerbw/32/3_2.png) [@RogerBW](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RogerBW)\ **Post date:** [17 October 2024 20:45 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/sleeping-gods-boo-to-gary-gygax-and-nostlagia-for-fighting-fantasy-gamebooks/2751/107 "2024-10-17T20:45:15Z")
Scorpion Swamp, Demons of the Deep, Robot Commando. ---
**Author:** ![Griffster77](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/griffster77/32/1048_2.png) [@Griffster77](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Griffster77)\ **Post date:** [18 October 2024 08:02 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/sleeping-gods-boo-to-gary-gygax-and-nostlagia-for-fighting-fantasy-gamebooks/2751/108 "2024-10-18T08:02:53Z")
I have great memories of sitting in my grandma’s cottage doing the FF books, sometimes with fingers holding my place in case I died suddenly… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![SteveB\_uk](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/steveb_uk/32/26030_2.png) [@SteveB\_uk](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/SteveB_uk)\ **Post date:** [18 October 2024 08:20 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/sleeping-gods-boo-to-gary-gygax-and-nostlagia-for-fighting-fantasy-gamebooks/2751/109 "2024-10-18T08:20:43Z")
Ian Livingstone wrote a new book this year (The Dungeon on Blood Island) and I found myself doing the finger-bookmarks entirely out of habit 😃 ---
**Author:** ![WolfeRJ](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/wolferj/32/16786_2.png) [@WolfeRJ](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/WolfeRJ)\ **Post date:** [18 October 2024 15:17 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/sleeping-gods-boo-to-gary-gygax-and-nostlagia-for-fighting-fantasy-gamebooks/2751/110 "2024-10-18T15:17:46Z")
I was not allowed to get the Lone Wolf books in 6th grade and I took that personally. What I went long on when I had the chance was the TSR 1v1 books that were interesting head to head competition versions of those: ![IMG_2789](https://discussion.tekeli.li/uploads/default/original/3X/c/b/cbc5d055ec5768a4c32c8c105e196dfcf2a0566c.jpeg) ![IMG_2790](https://discussion.tekeli.li/uploads/default/original/3X/4/6/4636dee026cbe188cecddd8038e712172a5f8638.jpeg) ![IMG_2791](https://discussion.tekeli.li/uploads/default/original/3X/a/6/a6d2e804ad11c6b001e81b27032f2fef9e7e5023.jpeg) ![IMG_2792](https://discussion.tekeli.li/uploads/default/original/3X/b/6/b6c021d27e319d12d6e5f72d4a3ef3494a16b851.jpeg) ![IMG_2793](https://discussion.tekeli.li/uploads/default/original/3X/9/1/91bdd54604bfb1b34f9847f1261b27668bad687e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![SteveB\_uk](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/steveb_uk/32/26030_2.png) [@SteveB\_uk](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/SteveB_uk)\ **Post date:** [18 October 2024 15:51 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/sleeping-gods-boo-to-gary-gygax-and-nostlagia-for-fighting-fantasy-gamebooks/2751/111 "2024-10-18T15:51:23Z")
I’ve not seen those! ---
**Author:** ![WolfeRJ](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/wolferj/32/16786_2.png) [@WolfeRJ](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/WolfeRJ)\ **Post date:** [19 October 2024 13:06 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/sleeping-gods-boo-to-gary-gygax-and-nostlagia-for-fighting-fantasy-gamebooks/2751/112 "2024-10-19T13:06:59Z")
The resolution was interesting as it was a table that matched numbers each player chose. Which seemed odd as it seemed clear to me each player should have a d20. ![IMG_8075](https://discussion.tekeli.li/uploads/default/original/3X/c/6/c638f9355ccc96f647c035fd539fecd5e50cca14.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![WolfeRJ](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/wolferj/32/16786_2.png) [@WolfeRJ](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/WolfeRJ)\ **Post date:** [19 October 2024 13:11 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/sleeping-gods-boo-to-gary-gygax-and-nostlagia-for-fighting-fantasy-gamebooks/2751/113 "2024-10-19T13:11:49Z")
Each usually had a “come back from a defeat” mechanism, usually with a side-effect so each player had a better chance of making it to a final showdown. The Lankhmar one was probably the most clever as, of course, Fafhrd and Mouser would be brought back by Ningauble and Sheelba’s mysterious methods. The guild just sent different assassins so that player’s base team changed: ![IMG_8071](https://discussion.tekeli.li/uploads/default/original/3X/6/9/692e9591a821883f8b7965532d2bdc581b3a190b.jpeg) ![IMG_8072](https://discussion.tekeli.li/uploads/default/original/3X/b/e/bee91475c4c88f99b738be900bb2570ed72c41bd.jpeg) ![IMG_8073](https://discussion.tekeli.li/uploads/default/original/3X/1/9/1991cacae4c9e8edb5a63d8de59a4d820ce170c6.jpeg) ![IMG_8074](https://discussion.tekeli.li/uploads/default/original/3X/4/6/46a8eb31bf1892507d01b4d81ecb7de748167f7a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Lordof1](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/lordof1/32/5_2.png) [@Lordof1](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Lordof1)\ **Post date:** [19 October 2024 22:50 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/sleeping-gods-boo-to-gary-gygax-and-nostlagia-for-fighting-fantasy-gamebooks/2751/114 "2024-10-19T22:50:45Z")
Oh gosh I would have loved these. ---
**Author:** ![SteveB\_uk](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/steveb_uk/32/26030_2.png) [@SteveB\_uk](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/SteveB_uk)\ **Post date:** [22 July 2025 22:13 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/sleeping-gods-boo-to-gary-gygax-and-nostlagia-for-fighting-fantasy-gamebooks/2751/115 "2025-07-22T22:13:38Z")
First of all, I’m just amazed once again at that book collection. The original colour FF 7! The orange _Sorcery!_ All the GrailQuest! ---
**Author:** ![SteveB\_uk](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/steveb_uk/32/26030_2.png) [@SteveB\_uk](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/SteveB_uk)\ **Post date:** [22 July 2025 22:18 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/sleeping-gods-boo-to-gary-gygax-and-nostlagia-for-fighting-fantasy-gamebooks/2751/116 "2025-07-22T22:18:46Z")
But I also came on to say that apparently the **Way of the Tiger** books are getting another reprint, this time with the original Bob Harvey art (!!) (The Kickstarter many years ago by “Megara Entertainment” couldn’t find Bob so did some new, and very inferior, art. This one, by “Shinobi 27 Games” is apparently promising to restore the original art). ![image](https://discussion.tekeli.li/uploads/default/original/3X/8/f/8f306172c073b45943eb9cba0c54d5b15e4f432b.jpeg) FB group with details - an email list to join for notifications of the crowdfunding, and Jamie Thomson as one of the group admins: > **[Log in to Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/groups/32113413825/)** > > Log in to Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family and people you know. ---
**Author:** ![Lordof1](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/lordof1/32/5_2.png) [@Lordof1](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Lordof1)\ **Post date:** [22 July 2025 22:31 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/sleeping-gods-boo-to-gary-gygax-and-nostlagia-for-fighting-fantasy-gamebooks/2751/117 "2025-07-22T22:31:00Z")
Oooh lovely, I am tempted but I do have the originals. They’re genuinely great though. Will the final one be published this time? (I backed Megara’s Fabled Lands 7 and they never delivered and were defunct soon afterwards). ---
**Author:** ![SteveB\_uk](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/steveb_uk/32/26030_2.png) [@SteveB\_uk](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/SteveB_uk)\ **Post date:** [22 July 2025 22:34 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/sleeping-gods-boo-to-gary-gygax-and-nostlagia-for-fighting-fantasy-gamebooks/2751/118 "2025-07-22T22:34:04Z")
> [@Lordof1](#): > > Will the final one be published this time? Not initially, they’re only looking at the first 5. The final one does exist in an endorsed form though - the Megara kickstarter included a prequel 0 and a final book (I believe there was always planned to be a final one after the cliffhanger) so a text does exist out there of a final book. I only got the PDFs so I don’t have a paper copy of it, but I can share the PDF. Yes, I saw a mention that Megara folded owing people money. ---
**Author:** ![Lordof1](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/lordof1/32/5_2.png) [@Lordof1](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Lordof1)\ **Post date:** [22 July 2025 22:59 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/sleeping-gods-boo-to-gary-gygax-and-nostlagia-for-fighting-fantasy-gamebooks/2751/119 "2025-07-22T22:59:32Z")
Well I’m happy to buy a PDF if that’s possible, I’d like the author to get something. But I am intrigued… that was a rough cliffhanger! ---
**Author:** ![SteveB\_uk](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/steveb_uk/32/26030_2.png) [@SteveB\_uk](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/SteveB_uk)\ **Post date:** [23 July 2025 06:37 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/sleeping-gods-boo-to-gary-gygax-and-nostlagia-for-fighting-fantasy-gamebooks/2751/120 "2025-07-23T06:37:48Z")
Having done a bit of searching, it appears that the ebook of book 7 isn’t available anymore - it was only through the Megara kickstarter / website and that’s all offline. Amazingly there is actually a copy of the paperback going on Amazon: > **[Redeemer: The Way of the Tiger 7: Volume 7: Amazon.co.uk: Walters, David, Smith,...](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Redeemer-Way-Tiger-7/dp/1515330451)** > > Buy Redeemer: The Way of the Tiger 7: Volume 7 7 by Walters, David, Smith, Mark, Thomson, Jamie (ISBN: 9781515330455) from Amazon's Book Store. Everyday low prices and free delivery on eligible orders. The prequel book 0 is on there too, called “Ninja”, and that has paperback and Kindle, don’t know why there’s no Kindle of book 7: > **[Ninja! (Way of the Tiger gamebook Book 0) eBook : Walters, David: Amazon.co.uk:...](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ninja-Way-Tiger-gamebook-Book-ebook/dp/B00HMFAATW)** > > Ninja! (Way of the Tiger gamebook Book 0) eBook : Walters, David: Amazon.co.uk: Kindle Store Having looked up the book 7 art and font etc from my PDF copy, WHOOO BOY it’s at “terrible clip-art” level. Beyond appalling. But at least the text exists and has the original authors’ approval. [Previous page](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/sleeping-gods-boo-to-gary-gygax-and-nostlagia-for-fighting-fantasy-gamebooks/2751.md?page=5) [Next page](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/sleeping-gods-boo-to-gary-gygax-and-nostlagia-for-fighting-fantasy-gamebooks/2751.md?page=7)