# “Oy!” “Wut?” Just chat (The Return of)

**URL:** <https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/oy-wut-just-chat-the-return-of/821>\
**Category:** Not Games\
**Created:** [5 May 2020 17:39 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/oy-wut-just-chat-the-return-of/821 "2020-05-05T17:39:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 159

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**Author:** ![SteveB\_uk](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/steveb_uk/32/26030_2.png) [@SteveB\_uk](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/SteveB_uk)\
**Post date:** [10 January 2026 14:15 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/oy-wut-just-chat-the-return-of/821/3208 "2026-01-10T14:15:10Z")

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It’s technically too early, but it’s never too early etc.

 ![PXL_20260110_140131971](https://discussion.tekeli.li/uploads/default/original/3X/a/c/ac3197cd5e61c8dd6629c2216a511a687ec2a009.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![TimEllis](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/timellis/32/53_2.png) [@TimEllis](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/TimEllis)\
**Post date:** [10 January 2026 19:40 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/oy-wut-just-chat-the-return-of/821/3209 "2026-01-10T19:40:49Z")

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I had an invitation to a charity golf tournament in Atlanta, intended for a (much) senior person who shared my name but was based in the US. I contacted the organiser to explain he had the wrong person - he said he knew he had met, and talked about the event with one of us, but didn’t know which was the right e-mail address, so he invited both of us anyway…  
The other Tim Ellis then relocated to the UK, at which point I started getting regular e-mails asking me to authorise the engagement or re-engagement of Contractors for various projects - I had to regretfully inform the requestors that if they were in a position to engage contractors they were already in a more senior position to me…

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**Author:** ![Boronian](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/boronian/32/1607_2.png) [@Boronian](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Boronian)\
**Post date:** [11 January 2026 09:09 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/oy-wut-just-chat-the-return-of/821/3210 "2026-01-11T09:09:05Z")

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Did you got to the golf tournament anyways? 😃

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**Author:** ![Griffster77](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/griffster77/32/1048_2.png) [@Griffster77](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Griffster77)\
**Post date:** [11 January 2026 12:09 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/oy-wut-just-chat-the-return-of/821/3211 "2026-01-11T12:09:13Z")

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Yes I probably should have! But once I’d sent a mail saying ‘I don’t think this is for me’, it all kicked off

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**Author:** ![JGD](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/jgd/32/619_2.png) [@JGD](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/JGD)\
**Post date:** [11 January 2026 18:09 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/oy-wut-just-chat-the-return-of/821/3212 "2026-01-11T18:09:58Z")

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My manager is a victim of the company’s ill-considered policy for duplicate names. The first person gets [firstname.lastname@company.com](mailto:firstname.lastname@company.com), the second one [lastname.firstname@company.com](mailto:lastname.firstname@company.com). He’s lastname.firstname, and the two got quite a bit of each other’s e-mail, until the firstname.lastname guy left.

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**Author:** ![Boronian](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/boronian/32/1607_2.png) [@Boronian](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Boronian)\
**Post date:** [11 January 2026 23:22 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/oy-wut-just-chat-the-return-of/821/3213 "2026-01-11T23:22:49Z")

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Who came up with that policy??

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**Author:** ![JGD](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/jgd/32/619_2.png) [@JGD](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/JGD)\
**Post date:** [12 January 2026 06:31 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/oy-wut-just-chat-the-return-of/821/3214 "2026-01-12T06:31:33Z")

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No idea. They had it before they bought the organisation that employs me.

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**Author:** ![pillbox](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/pillbox/32/1031_2.png) [@pillbox](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/pillbox)\
**Post date:** [15 January 2026 20:44 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/oy-wut-just-chat-the-return-of/821/3215 "2026-01-15T20:44:31Z")

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My oldest daughter asked very specifically for a Rubik’s Cube for Christmas. She got both a 2x2, a.k.a. Mini Cube) and a Rubik’s branded traditional 3x3.

She then asked me to help her solve them. So I looked it up and followed the official guide, starting with the 2x2. It took an evening, but eventually I could solve a 2x2 in about 3-4 minutes.

And then I looked into solving the 3x3. Spoiler: 2x2 is just a 3x3 without the “edge” pieces. The edge pieces take a considerable more time to deal with, but eventually I sort of got the hang of it.

And then I found a youtube video:

[![](https://discussion.tekeli.li/uploads/default/original/3X/0/6/062e618c856c227bf7d092f41ed28a812d5e1294.jpeg "Learn How to Solve a Rubik's Cube in 10 Minutes (Beginner Tutorial)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ron6MN45LY)

Using just the beginner method, I can solve a 3x3 in just under 2 minutes. However:

1. I bought a “offbrand” speedcube. Offbrand is weird, because I bought a MOYU, which is the brand used by the person who holds the speedcubing world record. GAN is another big-name “offbrand”. Speedcubes are way better than traditional Rubik’s brands.
2. I’m working on learning Intuitive F2L (first two layers) as part of the “CFOP\[1\]” method
3. I’m not all that worried about how fast I can solve

Solving with using Intuitive F2L, it takes me about 3.5 minutes to solve… so… slower than the “beginner method”. But, I’ve learned with speedcubing, learning something new will slow you down, but learning new skills and “algorithms” increase future potential.

And because I’m not really timing myself, I’m also working on OLL and PLL.

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1. Cross, F2L, OLL, PLL

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**Author:** ![Acacia](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/acacia/32/6915_2.png) [@Acacia](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Acacia)\
**Post date:** [15 January 2026 21:04 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/oy-wut-just-chat-the-return-of/821/3216 "2026-01-15T21:04:24Z")

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Sounds like a great “gift” for your “daughter,” bro.

I have a gan after spending years wrestling with a real one. It’s delightful.

It makes a great fidget device to hold out of frame on all these zoom calls. My old boss and I used to compare “our” ways of solving, no idea how it compares to the textbook solutions.

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**Author:** ![pillbox](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/pillbox/32/1031_2.png) [@pillbox](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/pillbox)\
**Post date:** [15 January 2026 21:06 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/oy-wut-just-chat-the-return-of/821/3217 "2026-01-15T21:06:43Z")

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> [@Acacia](#):
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> Sounds like a great “gift” for your “daughter,” bro.

Well, she told my partner that she wanted one and that was communicated to my father-in-law. I didn’t buy it and had doubts that it would be nothing more than a fidget toy that she would lose.

She, of course, got envious of my Moyu. I told her that if she solves hers once, I’d help her buy one like mine.

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**Author:** ![yashima](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/yashima/32/21481_2.png) [@yashima](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/yashima)\
**Post date:** [16 January 2026 17:10 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/oy-wut-just-chat-the-return-of/821/3218 "2026-01-16T17:10:36Z")

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> **[Root and Arcs designer Cole Wehrle, style-defining artist Kyle Ferrin lead...](https://boardgamewire.com/index.php/2026/01/14/root-and-arcs-designer-cole-wehrle-style-defining-artist-kyle-ferrin-lead-staff-exodus-from-leder-games-to-form-new-board-game-studio/)**
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> Leder Games has agreed to sell Arcs and Oath to Buried Giant as part of the shake-up, while keeping hold of its huge-selling star title Root, a game which despite its complexity has broken out of the hobby game bubble and onto the shelves of major...

Heard it via update for my Oath campaign expansion the other day.

A whole lot of people appear to be leaving or have left. I probably missed a lot of news on that because I don’t follow crowdfunding so much anymore.

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**Author:** ![lalunaverde](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/lalunaverde/32/28591_2.png) [@lalunaverde](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/lalunaverde)\
**Post date:** [16 January 2026 17:17 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/oy-wut-just-chat-the-return-of/821/3219 "2026-01-16T17:17:05Z")

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I saw it in BGG and a couple of Discord servers.

Seems inevitable. Leder Games was carried by Cole. I wasn’t hot about the other titles from Leder. I wanted to like Ahoy but didn’t. And since his brother can do the production side as well with his gig at Werhlegig, then why not Arcs, Oath, and others? What I didn’t expect is that Cole took the staff with him lol.

Re: Root - Root was probably too expensive for Cole to buy. And he hasn’t touched that game for a while now. The expansions were developed by other designers.

They are also keeping the Werhlegig brand

EDIT: Also based on the nauseatingly flowery words from both Cole and Leder, it sounds like the split wasnt a happy one

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**Author:** ![dscheidt](https://discussion.tekeli.li/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@dscheidt](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/dscheidt)\
**Post date:** [16 January 2026 19:29 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/oy-wut-just-chat-the-return-of/821/3220 "2026-01-16T19:29:51Z")

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> [@lalunaverde](#):
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> EDIT: Also based on the nauseatingly flowery words from both Cole and Leder, it sounds like the split wasnt a happy one

which is probably why the staff followed him out the door…

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**Author:** ![Benkyo](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/benkyo/32/1026_2.png) [@Benkyo](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Benkyo)\
**Post date:** [17 January 2026 03:29 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/oy-wut-just-chat-the-return-of/821/3221 "2026-01-17T03:29:49Z")

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Wait wait wait, so no public drama and an apparently amicable split is now being taken as evidence of drama?

(I consider it obvious that Leder isn’t _happy_ about this, but it is also a result made possible by the very permissive contracts that he chose to use.)

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**Author:** ![lalunaverde](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/lalunaverde/32/28591_2.png) [@lalunaverde](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/lalunaverde)\
**Post date:** [17 January 2026 13:29 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/oy-wut-just-chat-the-return-of/821/3222 "2026-01-17T13:29:05Z")

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Nah. It’s good that theres no public drama. Way better than the baby fight between Wallace and Bohrer.

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**Author:** ![yashima](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/yashima/32/21481_2.png) [@yashima](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/yashima)\
**Post date:** [24 January 2026 20:43 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/oy-wut-just-chat-the-return-of/821/3223 "2026-01-24T20:43:05Z")

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52 posts were split to a new topic: [Dice, Beautiful Dice](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/dice-beautiful-dice/6592)

Note: at 52 posts I felt this was already a full-blown thread

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**Author:** ![dscheidt](https://discussion.tekeli.li/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@dscheidt](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/dscheidt)\
**Post date:** [24 January 2026 00:58 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/oy-wut-just-chat-the-return-of/821/3275 "2026-01-24T00:58:16Z")

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It is currently warmer in my freezers (-2, -10)) than it is outside (-12). This seems less than ideal.

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**Author:** ![Whistle\_Pig](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/whistle_pig/32/1052_2.png) [@Whistle\_Pig](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Whistle_Pig)\
**Post date:** [30 January 2026 16:17 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/oy-wut-just-chat-the-return-of/821/3276 "2026-01-30T16:17:45Z")

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Is anyone here into quilting (or knows someone who is)? I bought a humble bundle of quilting and embroidery books but I’m only really interested in the embroidery ones.

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**Author:** ![Sexagesimalian](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/sexagesimalian/32/10542_2.png) [@Sexagesimalian](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Sexagesimalian)\
**Post date:** [30 January 2026 17:06 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/oy-wut-just-chat-the-return-of/821/3277 "2026-01-30T17:06:27Z")

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My wife is totally into quilting. Her sewing machine and cutting mat are currently on my gaming table (the dining room table).

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**Author:** ![Acacia](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/acacia/32/6915_2.png) [@Acacia](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Acacia)\
**Post date:** [30 January 2026 17:19 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/oy-wut-just-chat-the-return-of/821/3278 "2026-01-30T17:19:29Z")

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Sounds like it’s time to LARP Patchwork.

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