# Blood on the clocktower PBF **URL:** \ **Category:** Play by Post\ **Created:** [2 March 2021 19:33 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-pbf/2266 "2021-03-02T19:33:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![pillbox](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/pillbox/32/1031_2.png) [@pillbox](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/pillbox)\ **Post date:** [20 March 2021 22:48 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-pbf/2266/385 "2021-03-20T22:48:13Z")
I feel like this is a clever bluff by an evil player to guarantee no matter what happens later today, RossM cannot be nominated again ---
**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\ **Post date:** [20 March 2021 23:30 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-pbf/2266/386 "2021-03-20T23:30:00Z")
I mean it’s not that clever. I am, after all, definitely nominated. ---
**Author:** ![Whistle\_Pig](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/whistle_pig/32/1052_2.png) [@Whistle\_Pig](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Whistle_Pig)\ **Post date:** [21 March 2021 08:37 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-pbf/2266/387 "2021-03-21T08:37:29Z")
👻 @RossM why did you get @COMaestro to tell me your role, instead of doing it directly? 👻 ---
**Author:** ![yashima](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/yashima/32/21481_2.png) [@yashima](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/yashima)\ **Post date:** [21 March 2021 08:53 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-pbf/2266/388 "2021-03-21T08:53:57Z")
I vote yes. I think this is a bluff and I am calling it. Ps I would have said so last night but we had an online whisky tasting in which I semi participated and I didn’t want to vote under the influence. ---
**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\ **Post date:** [21 March 2021 09:01 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-pbf/2266/389 "2021-03-21T09:01:28Z")
Great question. 1. I trusted @COMaestro, especially after their death. I didn’t want to have people declaring me of whispering to lots of people and scheming. As @Captbnut agreed, neither of us can think of a way @COMaestro can be evil. So I’m happy to declare I’ve only whispered to one player, and they are good. 2. An additional test. I asked @COMaestro to whisper to you, because when I publicly declared my role I wanted to make sure @COMaestro had passed on the message as intended and had not ‘altered’ it to help team evil. ---
**Author:** ![yashima](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/yashima/32/21481_2.png) [@yashima](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/yashima)\ **Post date:** [21 March 2021 09:20 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-pbf/2266/390 "2021-03-21T09:20:10Z")
The more you argue how your whisper pattern exonerates you, the more suspicious I become. There are three people at this table who had no idea what a whispermap was until this game started. And then the first actions in the game were a lot of whispering. What were we supposed to think? For all I know the minion is (or was?) the Poisoner or the Scarlet Woman. How much would they even need to communicate with the Imp? (Note: I am still undecided whether it is @Captbnut or @RossM who is Team Evil, this is not a ringing endorsement of @Captbnut. Just saying.) ---
**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\ **Post date:** [21 March 2021 09:21 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-pbf/2266/391 "2021-03-21T09:21:21Z")
Actually, it might be worth avoiding this doubt in the future. If whenever we whisper to anyone, we also include @Najim we can guarantee no evil scheming can occur. The rule of three! ---
**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\ **Post date:** [21 March 2021 09:27 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-pbf/2266/392 "2021-03-21T09:27:28Z")
Oh. I’m not saying that whispering is bad, I’m only pointing out the only person I’ve whispered with is good. My first whisper, the first of the game, was to tell @COMaestro what my role was. If I was the poisoner or the scarlet woman that would be a huge risk as I would have no idea what the other roles were. ---
**Author:** ![COMaestro](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/comaestro/32/1030_2.png) [@COMaestro](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/COMaestro)\ **Post date:** [21 March 2021 14:45 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-pbf/2266/393 "2021-03-21T14:45:15Z")
So you are saying you are the Spy? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\ **Post date:** [21 March 2021 14:53 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-pbf/2266/394 "2021-03-21T14:53:27Z")
No, I’m the monk. But what I’m trying to convey is all possible combinations, and answer specific questions. Besides, If I was the spy I would definitely have whispered to my teammate at least once, to tell them everyone’s roles. Edit - If I was the spy, then you @comaestro couldn’t be the spy as well, which means that you would definitely be good because you were killed by accusing @Najim Which means that if I was the spy then I’ve only whispered to a good player. Tldr. Neither @COMaestro or myself are the spy ---
**Author:** ![GeeBizzle](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/geebizzle/32/20606_2.png) [@GeeBizzle](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/GeeBizzle)\ **Post date:** [21 March 2021 15:01 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-pbf/2266/395 "2021-03-21T15:01:00Z")
Votes so far: | player | Alive | Nom | Def | Latest\_vote | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | @pillbox | Yes | No | No | Not yet | | @yashima | Yes | No | No | Yes | | @COMaestro | No | N/A | N/A | 1 | | @Captbnut | Yes | No | No | Not yet | | @RossM | Yes | Yes | Yes | Not yet | | @Najim | Yes | No | No | Not yet | | @DJCT | No | N/A | N/A | 1 | | @Whistle_Pig | No | N/A | N/A | 1 | Could I ask that if any ghosts have any possible intention to vote they PM me so that I ensure they have the opportunity (I won’t hold this as a commitment). ---
**Author:** ![Captbnut](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/captbnut/32/21513_2.png) [@Captbnut](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Captbnut)\ **Post date:** [21 March 2021 15:24 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-pbf/2266/396 "2021-03-21T15:24:47Z")
I am so confused. My thinking goes: I would rather be played by a trickster and lose than kill a fellow townsfolk by trying to win. I vote **no** ---
**Author:** ![pillbox](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/pillbox/32/1031_2.png) [@pillbox](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/pillbox)\ **Post date:** [21 March 2021 16:01 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-pbf/2266/397 "2021-03-21T16:01:15Z")
I can’t shake the feeling that this is a double bluff. But there’s just not enough to go on. I vote **No** and desperately hope I’m not making a huge mistake. ---
**Author:** ![DJCT](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/djct/32/21700_2.png) [@DJCT](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/DJCT)\ **Post date:** [21 March 2021 16:13 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-pbf/2266/398 "2021-03-21T16:13:33Z")
👻I only get one vote for the rest of the game, right? It looks as though, after @Captbnut chickening out, then it wouldn’t be decisive … so I guess I won’t! It’s either @RossM or @yashima for reasons set out above … ---
**Author:** ![COMaestro](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/comaestro/32/1030_2.png) [@COMaestro](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/COMaestro)\ **Post date:** [21 March 2021 16:44 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-pbf/2266/399 "2021-03-21T16:44:36Z")
👻 I will not be voting on this nomination. 👻 ---
**Author:** ![GeeBizzle](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/geebizzle/32/20606_2.png) [@GeeBizzle](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/GeeBizzle)\ **Post date:** [21 March 2021 17:35 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-pbf/2266/400 "2021-03-21T17:35:10Z")
Voting update: | player | Alive | Nom | Def | Latest\_vote | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | @pillbox | Yes | No | No | No | | @yashima | Yes | No | No | Yes | | @COMaestro | No | N/A | N/A | 1 | | @Captbnut | Yes | No | No | No | | @RossM | Yes | Yes | Yes | Not yet | | @Najim | Yes | No | No | Not yet | | @DJCT | No | N/A | N/A | 1 | | @Whistle_Pig | No | N/A | N/A | 1 | We require 3 votes for the execution to carry. We still need a vote from @RossM and @Najim. ---
**Author:** ![Najim](https://discussion.tekeli.li/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@Najim](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Najim)\ **Post date:** [21 March 2021 19:35 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-pbf/2266/401 "2021-03-21T19:35:59Z")
I vote **yes** ---
**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\ **Post date:** [21 March 2021 19:37 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-pbf/2266/402 "2021-03-21T19:37:05Z")
Slightly shocked @Najim, I won’t lie. Forgot to say I vote **No** ---
**Author:** ![COMaestro](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/comaestro/32/1030_2.png) [@COMaestro](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/COMaestro)\ **Post date:** [21 March 2021 20:24 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-pbf/2266/403 "2021-03-21T20:24:49Z")
> [@yashima](#): > > For all I know the minion is (or was?) the Poisoner or the Scarlet Woman. How much would they even need to communicate with the Imp? 👻 Poisoner does want to communicate with the Imp, because it sucks to pick out a target to poison, only to have them be the Imp’s victim in the night. This can easily be one way communication though, and from either side. I feel like the townsfolk have a real lack of informational roles this round. My ability only reads my living neighbors, which can take a while to change (though I am dead, so it’s moot), a claimed Ravenskeeper, who only gets info if they are killed in the night, and a claimed Fortune Teller, who is probably our best chance of getting info, but started off really shifty so is hard to trust. I will say that @RossM communicated with me pretty early that he was the Monk. In fact, he was the first person to whisper to anyone. Such confidence in claiming a role suggests Monk, Imp, or Spy. Really, at this point I am suspicious of anyone who has claimed a role that discourages killing by the Imp. This would be Soldier and Ravenskeeper. But I also know that evil is probably going to win if we do not execute the Imp or Minion this turn. 👻 ---
**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\ **Post date:** [21 March 2021 21:32 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-pbf/2266/404 "2021-03-21T21:32:07Z")
But the fact I’ve only communicated with you means it highly unlikely I’m a spy as well. [Previous page](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-pbf/2266.md?page=19) [Next page](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-pbf/2266.md?page=21)