# Blood on the Clocktower 2: Bloodier on the Clocktower (game thread) **URL:** \ **Category:** Play by Post\ **Created:** [31 March 2021 09:35 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449 "2021-03-31T09:35:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Assussanni](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/assussanni/32/11057_2.png) [@Assussanni](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Assussanni)\ **Post date:** [7 April 2021 22:51 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/463 "2021-04-07T22:51:01Z")
I’ll also add that if Chewy really was the Butler then GabrielH must be drunk, evil or was poisoned on the first night or else they would have said they had zero evil neighbours. That, of course, assumes that you aren’t evil but I’m guessing that was implicit in your reasoning! Also, it looks like you have accepted GeeBizzle’s information as true, when they could be drunk, evil or were poisoned on the first night. ---
**Author:** ![KIR2](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/kir2/32/1391_2.png) [@KIR2](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/KIR2)\ **Post date:** [7 April 2021 23:11 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/464 "2021-04-07T23:11:58Z")
But why do all these theories always exclude DJ and Najim??? They’ve said nothing but whispers. Clearly they’re saying something for everyone to shield them without a word? I really don’t trust them. Are we going to have a demon that suddenly comes alive in the last few rounds? ---
**Author:** ![COMaestro](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/comaestro/32/1030_2.png) [@COMaestro](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/COMaestro)\ **Post date:** [7 April 2021 23:39 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/465 "2021-04-07T23:39:58Z")
> [@Assussanni](#): > > Also, it looks like you have accepted GeeBizzle’s information as true, when they could be drunk, evil or were poisoned on the first night. I was thinking this as well. No one has confirmed GeeBizzle’s bona fides. How can we be certain he is not on team Evil and is implicating two Good people as part of an Evil plan to get them killed? He admitted to offering people with recurring powers to claim Investigator to protect them, but could this not have been information gathering for potential victims? ---
**Author:** ![GabrielH](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/gabrielh/32/1118_2.png) [@GabrielH](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/GabrielH)\ **Post date:** [8 April 2021 01:10 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/466 "2021-04-08T01:10:15Z")
So, based on my reading, Ross is evil. I think this is correct, as nothing really refutes it, and other sources corroborate it. So based on that, Chewy is Butler, and we also have a Baron and a Drunk. GeeBizzle’s info means that either KIR2 is Scarlet, or GeeBizzle is Drunk/poisoned/evil. I agree that a spy is unlikely, so the second minion would be either Scarlet or Poisoner. Both GeeBizzle and DJCT have had incorrect info, so Poisoner seems probable, meaning the claim that KIR2 is Scarlet can be discarded. The question remains who the Poisoner is; it could have been Ross, which would be convenient, but he could also be the Baron. If I’ve been poisoned, it would shift blame to my neighbors, but I don’t really have much against either of them. I do think Lordof1 and WhistlePig are legit, and by my own power am forced to conclude that Chewy and DJCT are as well. That leaves GeeBizzle, Najim, Assussanni, KIR2, and COMaestro to take the two remaining bad roles. GeeBizzle was viciously attacking Ross, so I assume they’re not together. KIR2 is legitimately very confusing, but unfortunately we can’t prove anything about them at this point, with Virgin being spent. But having gone to the beach and felt the whale guts, my gut feeling is this: Najim is evil (by deduction), and either Assussanni is evil, or COMaestro has poisoned me. ---
**Author:** ![GabrielH](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/gabrielh/32/1118_2.png) [@GabrielH](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/GabrielH)\ **Post date:** [8 April 2021 03:13 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/467 "2021-04-08T03:13:08Z")
Having thought about this a bit more, I realized that there should be some reason for the imps failure on the second night; so there’s either a soldier or a monk. I find the prospect that the imp randomly went for a fringe player and got a soldier unlikely, which points to a monk. Assuming none of the good players have lied, that would leave Najim as the only one to have not claimed a role, so they would actually have to be the monk. That gives us just Assussanni, COMaestro, and KIR2 as suspects, and two evils between them. Like shooting fish in a barrel at this point 🍖 Also, @GabrielH looks worriedly at @DJCT ---
**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\ **Post date:** [8 April 2021 05:24 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/468 "2021-04-08T05:24:34Z")
👻 Hold on. What other sources corroborate I’m evil? 👻 ---
**Author:** ![GeeBizzle](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/geebizzle/32/20606_2.png) [@GeeBizzle](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/GeeBizzle)\ **Post date:** [8 April 2021 05:48 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/469 "2021-04-08T05:48:06Z")
You can do a kill free night as an imp by targeting a dead player. It’s feasible that the first night went kill free to confuse us all. ---
**Author:** ![Whistle\_Pig](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/whistle_pig/32/1052_2.png) [@Whistle\_Pig](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Whistle_Pig)\ **Post date:** [8 April 2021 06:12 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/470 "2021-04-08T06:12:24Z")
👻 Do either the soldier or the monk deflect the imp’s choice of victim? 👻 ---
**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\ **Post date:** [8 April 2021 06:19 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/471 "2021-04-08T06:19:33Z")
👻 Nope 👻 ---
**Author:** ![GeeBizzle](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/geebizzle/32/20606_2.png) [@GeeBizzle](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/GeeBizzle)\ **Post date:** [8 April 2021 06:54 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/472 "2021-04-08T06:54:25Z")
> [@DJCT](#): > > So far I have me, @GeeBizzle , @GabrielH as not the demon. I think @RossM may have been the demon, but I assume that when he was killed it passed on to someone else. Or I may have been drunk through all this… DJCT made a claim on RossM being evil. ---
**Author:** ![GabrielH](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/gabrielh/32/1118_2.png) [@GabrielH](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/GabrielH)\ **Post date:** [8 April 2021 06:58 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/473 "2021-04-08T06:58:39Z")
Indeed, DJCT is the direct one, and while he admits he could be drunk, we can’t have him, me, and GeeBizzle all be drunk, so I feel fairly confident in my assertion. ---
**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\ **Post date:** [8 April 2021 06:59 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/474 "2021-04-08T06:59:37Z")
👻 Apart from the fact that @DJCT , @KIR2 and @Chewy77 are the three players who vote consistently together and voted for your death? 👻 ---
**Author:** ![Whistle\_Pig](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/whistle_pig/32/1052_2.png) [@Whistle\_Pig](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Whistle_Pig)\ **Post date:** [8 April 2021 07:00 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/475 "2021-04-08T07:00:53Z")
👻 @Whistle_Pig whispers to @Najim and @Assussanni 👻 ---
**Author:** ![GabrielH](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/gabrielh/32/1118_2.png) [@GabrielH](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/GabrielH)\ **Post date:** [8 April 2021 07:07 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/476 "2021-04-08T07:07:14Z")
If Chewy was in fact the Butler, he would have to vote with DJCT, and just because I know I’m good doesn’t mean everyone does, so some amount of trying to kill me is acceptable. I would certainly be down with going for the center of the venn diagram, and taking out KIR2 as a suspect in both conspiracies. We’ll see how the mob decides that one though… ---
**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\ **Post date:** [8 April 2021 07:11 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/477 "2021-04-08T07:11:31Z")
👻 I don’t disagree necessarily 👻 ---
**Author:** ![DJCT](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/djct/32/21700_2.png) [@DJCT](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/DJCT)\ **Post date:** [8 April 2021 07:27 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/478 "2021-04-08T07:27:03Z")
Actually I have said quite a lot. Deflecting @kir2? ---
**Author:** ![Chewy77](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/chewy77/32/1035_2.png) [@Chewy77](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Chewy77)\ **Post date:** [8 April 2021 07:27 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/479 "2021-04-08T07:27:09Z")
> [@GabrielH](#): > > Chewy was in fact the Butler, he would have to vote with DJCT 👻 Technically, I could have voted No if my master (DJCT) had voted Yes. What I could not do was vote Yes if he voted No. I actually nominated in retaliation for being wrongly accused, specially after whispering that I was on team good. What would have been funny is if DJ had voted No, so would have I. 👻 ---
**Author:** ![GeeBizzle](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/geebizzle/32/20606_2.png) [@GeeBizzle](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/GeeBizzle)\ **Post date:** [8 April 2021 07:30 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/480 "2021-04-08T07:30:24Z")
To clarify, although I accused Ross I had no provided info of my own to support Ross’s alignment other than suspicion of Ross and DJCT. Discussions with DJCT led me to believe that Ross seemed a more likely candidate and I liked that this gave us a scan of DJCT. There is a scenario where I haven’t been drunk and Gabriel and DJCT are evil with Kir2. It possible that Gabriel got lucky accusing Chewy as this tied into my info and distracted from Kir. This would be the worst timeline. ---
**Author:** ![DJCT](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/djct/32/21700_2.png) [@DJCT](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/DJCT)\ **Post date:** [8 April 2021 07:35 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/481 "2021-04-08T07:35:07Z")
There is of course a danger that this is all group think amongst the speakers. There are a number of us who have been reticent during this and may be doing so and cackling gleefully as we end up murdering each other! ---
**Author:** ![Assussanni](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/assussanni/32/11057_2.png) [@Assussanni](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Assussanni)\ **Post date:** [8 April 2021 07:53 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/482 "2021-04-08T07:53:53Z")
@Assussanni whispers back to @Whistle_Pig and @Najim. [Previous page](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449.md?page=23) [Next page](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449.md?page=25)