# Blood on the Clocktower 2: Bloodier on the Clocktower (game thread)

**URL:** <https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449>\
**Category:** Play by Post\
**Created:** [31 March 2021 09:35 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449 "2021-03-31T09:35:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![KIR2](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/kir2/32/1391_2.png) [@KIR2](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/KIR2)\
**Post date:** [4 April 2021 20:01 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/281 "2021-04-04T20:01:48Z")

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> [@Whistle\_Pig](#):
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> I don’t think I said you might be evil… I thought nominating you would confirm that you were good when your accuser was struck dead!

EDIT: Oh apologies, it was geebizzles information. Will amend my defence.

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**Author:** ![Lordof1](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/lordof1/32/5_2.png) [@Lordof1](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Lordof1)\
**Post date:** [4 April 2021 20:24 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/282 "2021-04-04T20:24:07Z")

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Wait… the fact that they both turned on each other tells you that they are good?

I’m increasingly intimidated by the wide spectrum of possibilities here. I’m even questioning the existence of my hollowed-out whale that I live in. And that whale is my rock. Or my house. Or my soul or something.

Regardless, @KIR2 either isn’t as pure white as they say they are, or they’re drunk, or they’ve been poisoned… as far as I can tell the latter seems the least likely, but all of them seem like good reasons to me for a bit of stabbing, so I’m voting **YES**

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**Author:** ![Najim](https://discussion.tekeli.li/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@Najim](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Najim)\
**Post date:** [4 April 2021 20:45 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/283 "2021-04-04T20:45:19Z")

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I am voting **yes**  
Unlike @GeeBizzle I think the fact that @KIR2 solely had “@RossM must be evil” arguments makes him rather look fishy. Poison, drunk, there are a lot possibilities.  
For what I know, both might be evil as well.

> [@KIR2](#):
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> Ross has been acting suspiciously, talking about nominating me then backing off. Almost hiding behind Najim asking for me to vote myself.

@RossM isn’t of the hook, because of the first sentence here. However, after I suggested @KIR2 should vote for himself, I didn’t feel like Ross would push my idea.  
Besides, the evil players most likely would have known the outcome here (only exeption: KIR2 is drunk), so in my book people who pushed for this scenario look rather suspicious.

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**Author:** ![RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rossm/32/1021_2.png) [@RossM](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RossM)\
**Post date:** [4 April 2021 21:02 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/284 "2021-04-04T21:02:33Z")

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> [@RossM](#):
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> (I was thinking of doing this anyway!)

Just to stop this narrative before it continues. I never said I was going to nominate the virgin on day 1. I said I would consider it. I never pushed it, or the self virgin nominating either.

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**Author:** ![GabrielH](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/gabrielh/32/1118_2.png) [@GabrielH](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/GabrielH)\
**Post date:** [4 April 2021 21:30 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/285 "2021-04-04T21:30:12Z")

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Okay, so I’m gonna do some hypotheses.

Suppose Ross is evil. That would mean Chewy would have been good. Which would have made KIR2 the Scarlet Woman. In which case, the virgin situation still checks out, as then they’re both evil. (Note that in this situation the presence of a drunk is probable, although it could be located anywhere.)

But suppose Ross is good. That would mean Chewy had been evil, and KIR2 is probably the actual virgin. In which case Ross should be dead. (In this situation, there is no Butler, thus no Baron and no Drunk)

Alternately, GeeBizzle is evil/drunk, and the Investigator information is a lie, and KIR2 and Chewy can both be good, and Ross is evil. (Drunk, probably, what with Chewy being the Butler in this instance.)

All in all, things not looking terribly bright for Ross 🧐 😕 😈

As for Kir2, he hasn’t been voting good ways, so **I vote Yes**

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**Author:** ![DJCT](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/djct/32/21700_2.png) [@DJCT](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/DJCT)\
**Post date:** [4 April 2021 22:26 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/286 "2021-04-04T22:26:27Z")

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I vote **no** , I just wish my butler was here to vote no too …

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**Author:** ![RogerBW](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rogerbw/32/3_2.png) [@RogerBW](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RogerBW)\
**Post date:** [4 April 2021 22:46 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/287 "2021-04-04T22:46:56Z")

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OK, waiting for votes (either you haven’t made them or I’ve missed them) from Assussanni, Whistle\_Pig, COMaestro, Chewy77 (has only one “yes” vote).

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**Author:** ![Assussanni](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/assussanni/32/11057_2.png) [@Assussanni](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Assussanni)\
**Post date:** [4 April 2021 22:53 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/288 "2021-04-04T22:53:47Z")

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I’m confused, to me it looks like the two people who have the most cause to vote yes have voted no.

I’m on the fence. However, if KIR2 is the Scarlet Woman then simply knowing who they are takes away a lot of their power.

I vote **no**.

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**Author:** ![COMaestro](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/comaestro/32/1030_2.png) [@COMaestro](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/COMaestro)\
**Post date:** [5 April 2021 00:39 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/289 "2021-04-05T00:39:04Z")

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Sorry, kids have been very attention seeking today, making it hard to do anything else.

There are some other options:

1. @Chewy77 was the Scarlet Woman and you are Drunk. Doubtful, unless @Lordof1 is lying about being the Recluse and @Whistle_Pig is lying as well, or there is someone else who is an outsider and has not said anything.

2. @GeeBizzle is evil and lying about a Scarlet Woman in the first place, or is Drunk and getting completely incorrect info. In this case, @RossM could be evil which is why he did not die, or without there being a Scarlet Woman, we have a Poisoner, disabling your ability. This would mean Chewy was innocent.

3. You are an Evil fiend and deserve to die.

> [@KIR2](#):
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> Gabriel has pinged evil twice. Either by chance both Chewy and DJ are evil, or Ross has been evil all along. Which is statistically more likely to cause two pings of evil in a row?

If your assertion that @Assussanni is the Chef is correct, then they should have received info regarding pairs of Evil players sitting together. If both @Chewy77 and @DJCT are evil, that should have pinged twice now. Can this be confirmed? If there was a pair the first night and not the second night, then @RossM is likely our Evil player being picked up by the Empath. Assuming he is not Evil or Drunk either, of course.

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**Author:** ![Chewy77](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/chewy77/32/1035_2.png) [@Chewy77](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Chewy77)\
**Post date:** [5 April 2021 01:15 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/290 "2021-04-05T01:15:00Z")

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👻 I am not voting (sorry, out and about all day with friends and kids) 👻

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**Author:** ![Lordof1](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/lordof1/32/5_2.png) [@Lordof1](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Lordof1)\
**Post date:** [5 April 2021 08:22 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/291 "2021-04-05T08:22:03Z")

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_whittles some whale bone and giggles to himself_

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**Author:** ![Whistle\_Pig](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/whistle_pig/32/1052_2.png) [@Whistle\_Pig](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Whistle_Pig)\
**Post date:** [5 April 2021 08:38 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/292 "2021-04-05T08:38:02Z")

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I’ll vote no this time

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**Author:** ![RogerBW](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rogerbw/32/3_2.png) [@RogerBW](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RogerBW)\
**Post date:** [5 April 2021 08:40 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/293 "2021-04-05T08:40:18Z")

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OK, just @COMaestro’s vote to go.

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**Author:** ![Assussanni](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/assussanni/32/11057_2.png) [@Assussanni](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Assussanni)\
**Post date:** [5 April 2021 11:00 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/294 "2021-04-05T11:00:26Z")

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> [@COMaestro](#):
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> If your assertion that @Assussanni is the Chef is correct, then they should have received info regarding pairs of Evil players sitting together. If both @Chewy77 and @DJCT are evil, that should have pinged twice now. Can this be confirmed?

The Chef only receives information during the first night, at the start of the game. It would be affected by the fact that it looks almost certain that there is a Recluse in play. It could be further affected if there is a Spy, although currently that role is firmly at the bottom of the list of minions that I think are most likely in play.

I do not have any information that definitively points to Chewy and/or DJCT having a particular alignment one way or the other. If I did I would have announced it prior to the nomination of the supposed Virgin. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![Chewy77](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/chewy77/32/1035_2.png) [@Chewy77](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/Chewy77)\
**Post date:** [5 April 2021 11:08 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/295 "2021-04-05T11:08:14Z")

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👻 Gosh, we need an undertaker as soon as possible to confirm that I was the Butler 👻

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**Author:** ![COMaestro](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/comaestro/32/1030_2.png) [@COMaestro](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/COMaestro)\
**Post date:** [5 April 2021 12:14 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/296 "2021-04-05T12:14:16Z")

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My mistake, I thought it continually updated.

Then I vote **No**. I know this turn that @KIR2 cannot be nominated again, but next turn we can try @Najim’s idea of having @KIR2 nominate himself, or one of the strongly suspected to be good townsfolk player can do so. If the nominator dies, we will know @RossM is evil, and if not, @KIR2 is likely evil and can be executed then.

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**Author:** ![KIR2](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/kir2/32/1391_2.png) [@KIR2](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/KIR2)\
**Post date:** [5 April 2021 12:19 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/297 "2021-04-05T12:19:27Z")

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Voting for myself won’t do anything. The virgin is a one time ability. There’s nothing I can prove now 🤷‍♂️

Like a virgin, touched for the very first time.

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**Author:** ![COMaestro](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/comaestro/32/1030_2.png) [@COMaestro](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/COMaestro)\
**Post date:** [5 April 2021 12:27 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/298 "2021-04-05T12:27:32Z")

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Edit: Nevermind. I am very bad at remembering the rules to this game, apparently.

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**Author:** ![RogerBW](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/rogerbw/32/3_2.png) [@RogerBW](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/RogerBW)\
**Post date:** [5 April 2021 12:36 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/299 "2021-04-05T12:36:06Z")

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| voter | KIR2 |
| --- | --- |
| DJCT | no |
| GeeBizzle | no |
| Najim | yes |
| Assussanni | no |
| KIR2 | no |
| Whistle\_Pig | no |
| Lordof1 | yes |
| COMaestro | no |
| RossM | no |
| GabrielH | yes |
| Chewy77 👻🗳 | no |

RossM nominates KIR2 [3/11]

Nomination of KIR2 fails. Deadline for further day 2 nominations: 2021-04-06T12:35:00Z

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**Author:** ![GeeBizzle](https://discussion.tekeli.li/user_avatar/discussion.tekeli.li/geebizzle/32/20606_2.png) [@GeeBizzle](https://discussion.tekeli.li/u/GeeBizzle)\
**Post date:** [5 April 2021 13:44 UTC](https://discussion.tekeli.li/t/blood-on-the-clocktower-2-bloodier-on-the-clocktower-game-thread/2449/300 "2021-04-05T13:44:39Z")

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I nominate @RossM. For obvious him not being dead reasons.

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